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[nova_star]

Hi, just thought id like to say so being all and newish to this. My gf introduced me to this.

I couldnt decide what to say so Im gunna have to go with my most debated topic.

Screaming kids....... :naughty:

Personally, I cant take a screaming kid anywhere no matter where I am. For some reason when kids hit that ear splitting tone, it makes me tweak just that much. But dont get me wrong, im not saying that I dont like kids....I just dont want to hear them try opera everytime they are cranky about something (overenthusiastic kids I can sorta tolerate). The worst ones are the kids who just scream and scream and I just see their parents trying hard to get them to be quiet but they wont stop. Personally, I say those kids should be taken home IMMEDIATLY and not battle with them. Only saying so becaused I was raised said way and I learned very quickly that if I did something like that I would end up in my room alone (I was allowed to eat dinner and such)

Well I hope I dont piss neone off with this...just like to say

[Crushed]

Yeah, children can be annoying at times. I know I won't have any for many, many, many, many, many years.

Welcome! :mrgreen:

[MuthaFranka]

It's fine unless it's in a public space. And I know it's an inconvenience for the parent to get up and tend to the child, but god fucking dammit, i'm trying to eat.

It drives me nuts. The 4 months or so I was waiting tables, it would make me cringe just to hear some kid screaming his head off, and his fat cow-eyed mother sitting there ignoring it. Not everybody can ignore that shit, take your kid out of the room before I smack you in the face.

[nova_star]

Not everybody can ignore that shit, take your kid out of the room before I smack you in the face.

Something most of think but never say. I think the best one I ever had was I was working at at restraunt anbd i was cleaning table when this overweight kid just started screaming his head off. It started to make guests leave so the manager came out and asked that the mother take the baby out because he was causing a scene (basically)

She turns around and starts yelling at my manager telling him her baby doesnt make that much noise. Meanwhile people around are eith moving away or yelling at her. It's those kind of parents that make me angry as much as the yelling make me angry. I later found out that teh kid was crying cuz he couldnt get dessert.

Oy! Cya

[Wolf]

I dislike kids in general.

Though I do hate screechy children most of all, they all get on my nerves. Except the quiet, well behaved, cute children. If anyone ever finds one...

[IGemini]

Ah, yes. Screaming children, 'tis annoying. What I hate the most is when parents just sit there when it's happening, not even paying them any attention. I know about the "less dependence" tactic, but in public, it's not worth the sanity of everyone in earshot.

[hunny]

I love kids, but I agree if they're out of control it's up to the parents to remove them so they don't bother everyone around them. Especially in a restaurant or movie, some thing like that. Out side isn't so bad.
Of course, when I have children they'll not only be adorable, they'll be sweet, well-behaved; geniuses, even!
:D

[water nymph]

While I understand the annoyance that loud kids cause I think it is easy to be judgemental. Kids are hard to manage and I like to try cut parents some slack especially after this year. I worked with a developmentally disabled class and happened across an article by a mother of an autistic child. Ausistic children, unliked Downs children, look like every other child but they are just a volatile, mood wise. It is completly possible that the screaming children could be Autistic and that is a whole other matter. While "normal" kids can be reasoned with (to an extent) it is a other matter with an Autistic children.

After reading that I decided not to be too judgemental about screaming kids simply because I don't know the circumstances. Now if the parent is obviously an incompetent fuck-up I will be annoyed but still...it's hard to be a parent.

[Asphodelle13]

Its one issue for a kid to be screaming and crying in a public place. I can usually ignore that and keep my calm. When the screaming is followed by kicking and flopping onto the floor, that is when my stress goes up lol. I can't tolerate that for long.

Tristan likes to climb out of his stroller. 3 yrs old don't like to be strapped down for a while unless they're really tired. He doesn't want to hold my hand for long periods of time. Then I tell him to just walk beside me and he suddenly darts off. Sometimes he says (in a teasing way) "Can't catch meeeeeeeee!" :eek: :P Do you know how nervewracking it is to have your kid escape you and disappear behind countless clothing wracks? When one is only 3ft tall its pretty easy to hide. He did it at Toys R Us once. I immediately told a store employee and she alerted all employees on their walkie-talkies. They soon found him wandering towards the employees lounge, scared and crying. Now everytime he wants to escape me I remind him of that experience.:P

[Deidre]

I don't mind crying kids in public, because, well, parents aren't miracle workers... but I can't stand parents who fight with their little kids in public (you should have enough authority to be able to tell them to behave in public, damnit), or who don't control their kids (e.g. the kid runs around and takes things in a store... my mother always implemented the "hands behind your back" rule from the age of two) or parents who don't take responsibility for what their kid does (e.g. refuses to pay when their kid licks all the muffins at a café).

The one sound I really can't stand, though, is older kids laughing... lots of them. It makes me want to rip things to pieces.

[hunny]

I totally agree that it's hard to be a parent, i'm sure it is, and I can understand the need to get out once in awhile. Sometimes there's stuff you just have to do and you need to take your children along. And a baby crying doesn't bother me at all. Actually none of it really bothers me very much, I just think for the sake and consideration of others, parents should try to react appropriately when their child is having a full blown, screaming tantrum in a public place. Other people paid to see the movie, or are trying to have dinner, depending on the place, and parents should have the sense not to impose ear-splitting, prolonged screaming on complete strangers.

[vampbarbie]

What annoys me are the parents who sit there and ignore the child completely. We had one at work who just talked on her mobile phone while the kid screamed for 15 mins at least!

Or parents who 'reward' their child for crying. They go "ssshh we'll go to McDonalds" !!!

[water nymph]

Originally posted by vampbarbie@Jun 14 2005, 12:32 PM
Or parents who 'reward' their child for crying. They go "ssshh we'll go to McDonalds" !!!
Good idea! Make your kid fat AND whiney!

[alegria]

Originally posted by vampbarbie@Jun 14 2005, 05:32 PM
What annoys me are the parents who sit there and ignore the child completely. We had one at work who just talked on her mobile phone while the kid screamed for 15 mins at least!

Or parents who 'reward' their child for crying. They go "ssshh we'll go to McDonalds" !!!
That right there is what angers me the most. I had this one kid flop down in the store where I was working and burst into hysterics. The mother sat down, pet his hair, attending to his needs and finally said they would go get some toys. At the first outburst, I would tell him to be quiet. If that didn't work, I'd pick him up without saying a word and put him outside in the car (with the windows rolled down, of course) and tell him that if he can't behave himself, he has to go into timeout and "think about what he did" (like my mom always made me do). No patronizing...bleh. Some parents. And we wonder why kids are so screwed up...

"They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do."
-Philip Larkin

[nova_star]

Or parents who 'reward' their child for crying. They go "ssshh we'll go to McDonalds" !!!

It is sad how sometimes the only thing that parents do to shut up their kids is stuff something greasy in their mouths to block the sound. Which leads me into another problem I have.

Child obesity........

If the kid cant help being fat, wether being a diabetic of a glandular problem, fine...thats aighht.

It's just when I see a fat kid, that I'm damn sure he/she got that way through eating too much junk, that I just cringe in disgust. Whats worse is when they bring in the little butterball and order him (6 years old, I have served this....honest truth) a triple burger with extra bacon.

Or those kids that sit on their ass all day long in front of a computer or TV and dont get any excersise. They just lie there and get bigger and bigger...it just makes me sick that the kid has no motivation, and that his/her parents have done nothing about it.

Again, if the kid cant medically help it then its fine./...they cant do nothing. But if it could be helped and its not being looked after....*shudders* its makes me wanna just bust out a tredmill and see how long they can last.....

Oy!Cya!

[MuthaFranka]

Eh, all you need to do is read a book like "Fast Food Nation" to realize the utter crap EVERYBODY is consuming, just due to chemicals and preservatives.

It's disgusting, and it's difficult for human bodies ot process processed foods. Not so much the fat content of food, as much as the food itself.

[ittakessome]

I hate seeing parents giving their children coke or fast food. Kids should not drink coke. I recently quit the toy store I worked at b/c I couldn’t stand the children. Or the parents that ask, "are you ready to leave?" and the kids go, "no!!!" and then freak out. So the parents either says "well mommy really needs to go so please hurry up." or they buy the kid whatever they wanted. The other night my boyfriend and I were at a Mexican restaurant eating when two toddlers came running up and down the tables. They were fighting and screaming and hitting each other. Where was the mom? She was in the waiting area, in a totally different room. The two boys could have been kidnapped and had horrible things done to them…. who would’ve known? My boyfriend has told me that we're not going to have kids until we study-parenting techniques and find which ones work. I don’t feel like having to deal with a child that wont listen to me.



Do parents still spank their kids?

[MuthaFranka]

Bah, there is no definitive way to parent.

Just teach your kids not to be fucking morons, it's really quite simple. And when they're at such a young age as to not be reasoned with, you punish them, not necessarily through physical abuse, but there has to be SOME way to do it.

Parenting has been replaced by the electronic baby-sitter. Shit, I didn't have a television in my room til I was almost 17, my idiot little brother had one in his room from like 2nd grade on, and the kid's a complete dope. Spends all his time playing his x-box or surfing the web, and probably hasn't read a book in the past 5 years that wasn't assigned by his school.

That brings me to my final point that teaching your children to be literate, and i mean ACTUALLY literate, not just teaching them to read, makes for a smarter overall kid. Fuck the sports and all the crap that goes along with them too. Or hell, even incorporate both. God knows we don't need another generation of football crazed morons graduating from high school

[Burro]

...All this and here I thought it was another "I'm leaving" post from a member I've never heard of, but it's not, so WELCOME ABOARD. ;)

As for the screaming kids, yes, get them the hell away from me.

[MuthaFranka]

I say turn them into a nice soup.

With oyster crackers.

[Asphodelle13]

Originally posted by MuthaFranka@Jun 16 2005, 07:48 PM
I say turn them into a nice soup.

With oyster crackers.
:eek:

Noooooooooooo!

No one is making my son into a kiddie soup. Sure, he has his difficult moments of screaming and slapping and kicking and running(as quite the escape artist) but the cutesy moments make it all worthwhile. He's a charmer.

http://www.shinraonline.com/asphodelle13/trist.jpghttp://www.shinraonline.com/asphodelle13/trist2.jpg


Welcome to the forums, nova star. :cool2:

[MuthaFranka]

Well see, there's a direct corollation between the cuteness of a child, and the tastiness of a soup made from said child.

Judging by those pictures, it will be a fine soup indeed.

*insert evil laugh*

[dtbmnec]

Awww he is sooo cute.....*yoinks, steals and runs away with*

(lol this coming from the woman who posted not even 2 weeks ago "I don't want to be a mom yet!"

seriously though he is really cute....:) and all kids are great escape artists.....apparently so was I until my parents put a leather dog harness on me (it was the only one that wouldn't break on my parents because I pulled too much for the cheap elastic ones made for kids)

Megan

[SoSweetAngel]

To everyone who says "take your child home if it's screaming in public places", I say "DON'T!!!)
I have the unfortunate-ness of living in a first-floor flat, where the ground floor keep the animals people call "children". Now, I'm not being harsh but I want to smash this kids head in with a napalm-covered brick. It screams (not cries, not complains, but a endless scream) constantly. It wakes me up every morning, and doesn't stop until 8ish in the evening.
I conisdered throwing an all night party, but then I heard the parents.... they try EVERYTHING. The ask what's wrong... the kids screams more. They yell at it, it screams more. They carry it around the block, it keeps screaming. They offer it cake, it's still screaming. They threaten not to feed it, it's still screaming. This is NOT a screaming toddler, this is a child fully caplable of moaning about what it doesn't want and then screaming for four hours.

[Barefoot Matt]

Originally posted by SoSweetAngel@Jul 1 2005, 04:29 PM
To everyone who says "take your child home if it's screaming in public places", I say "DON'T!!!)
I have the unfortunate-ness of living in a first-floor flat, where the ground floor keep the animals people call "children". Now, I'm not being harsh but I want to smash this kids head in with a napalm-covered brick. It screams (not cries, not complains, but a endless scream) constantly. It wakes me up every morning, and doesn't stop until 8ish in the evening.
I conisdered throwing an all night party, but then I heard the parents.... they try EVERYTHING. The ask what's wrong... the kids screams more. They yell at it, it screams more. They carry it around the block, it keeps screaming. They offer it cake, it's still screaming. They threaten not to feed it, it's still screaming. This is NOT a screaming toddler, this is a child fully caplable of moaning about what it doesn't want and then screaming for four hours.
And people do this by choice? I just don't get it.

[water nymph]

I guess they didn't plan to have a little devil. Maybe that kid needs some medical help....

[nova_star]

Maybe that kid needs some medical help...

Mmmmm...riddline...

I do hear that kids who are on riddline taste better in a white wine sauce

Speaking of killing children (not that I partake in no matter how much I want to), there's this sweet site thats hosted by a cartoon squirrel named Foamy. It a vulgar cartoon so those with virgin ears shouldnt go see

It can be found at www.illwillpress.com. Click on the "toons" portion the bar at the top of the page, and find the cartoon named "medicated baby heads" (*note this episode doesnt contain Foamy, but feel free to look at the other episodes, especially the rants, they funny!)

Thanks for the welcomes all!

[MuthaFranka]

it's um...ritalin?

Riddline doesn't even make sense, but I guess it doesn't matter.

[IGemini]

Riddline sounds more like a lazy slang of the word. But yeah, Foamy rocks and Pilz-E is funny for being hyper on his ADD medication all the time. :laugh:

[nova_star]

Ok, Ok, I couldnt remember how to spell it so I kinda faked it. Happy? Huh? You've crushed me under your giant knowledge of spelling and now I'm doomed to a life long torture of shame! NOOOOOOOOO

J/K, thanks for the CORRECT spelling Mutha

"when I starts me fiddlin' I just takes me ritalin. I'm poppin' and sailin' man"-Bart Simpson

[Chippy]

Hey

Is it true that taking Riddiline when you're not ADD or ADHD it makes you hyper or was my doctor full of himself

Anyway there is one kind of parent that drives me nuts (GO FOAMY)
the kind of parent that doesn't just ignor the child but starts to alk off.

My mother did that to me once and hey I did scream, I though she was leaving me forever and well hey that sucks.

Okay to be honest there is one thing that bothers me more...

The people that butt into other peoples dealing with children. Now the parents have screaming children and assholes to deal with.

I feel kinda sorry for people with young children and sorta look the other way when they'r ekids go nuts
:eusa_eh:

[SoSweetAngel]

Ritalin is a pretty good thing. I don't think it should be abused.... my ex-bfs little sister has ADHD -- she's on ritalin - everyone always says stuff like "ahh, they're pumping their child full of druuuugs, it's just wroooong". What would they know? They're two of the most caring people I've ever met - they'd never have let a doctor put her on it if they hadn't tried all the alternatives.

the kind of parent that doesn't just ignore the child but starts to walk off.

Hmm, yeh - but usually the child chases after the parent and shuts up a bit - which I guess is a good thing. I don't even know why I said that - I know NOTHING about parenting!! I don't want the little bastards! People say I'll want children later in life - and I'm sure i will, but as a 20-yr-old student I really don't feel any need for little Isa's running around the place!!

[MuthaFranka]

I think ritalin is GARBAGE and is basically taking away the rights of children to be fucking children.

Since when do kids have to act like adults? Sit up straight, pay attention in class, blah blah blah. Have to mold all of them into little clones of their parents so they can occupy cubicles when they're 22.

Let the little bastards do what they want, we may just have a happier society. But then again, i'm the one that thinks all of us are being conditioned on a mass scale.


And nova, i wasn't trying to be an asshole. If i was trying to be an asshole, I most likely would have called you a dumb fuck and THEN corrected the spelling. ;)

[dtbmnec]

Originally posted by MuthaFranka@Jul 4 2005, 04:55 PM
And nova, i wasn't trying to be an asshole. If i was trying to be an asshole, I most likely would have called you a dumb fuck and THEN corrected the spelling. ;)
Point......:P

Sorry nova, gotta agree with Mutha on that one......

Megan

[Barefoot Matt]

Originally posted by Chippy@Jul 4 2005, 10:03 AM
Is it true that taking Riddiline when you're not ADD or ADHD it makes you hyper or was my doctor full of himself
Yes, that's true. Ritalin is a stimulant. That's how it was originally developed; it's also used to treat narcolepsy. I believe the discovery that it calmed down children with ADHD was purely serendipitous, although I'm not sure on that point.

[Chippy]

Thanks Barefoot, for the info

Okay you may be right that the children that chase after thier parents do usually calm down, but what about the ones that A) don't give chase or B) Run in the other direction?

Also what right do children of today have???

I mean like the children that are completely dependent on what thier parents provide for them (Usually Everything). So if you're mommy and Daddy give you everything, you tend to trust them, so ummm if Mommy and Daddy say that the pill that looks like candy will help me, then the general inclination of children is to take the Damn pill, Without question.

And Saying that the children that are out of control are a result of the parents plugging them into some form or another of electronics and that is ultimatly why the children don't listen

Chippy :eusa_eh: