openers...and problem w/ girls flirting my friend

[RnC]

hey whatsup guys

haha this is my first post ..h mmm , this is for both guys n girls. for guys, what kind of openers do you usually find working? my situation is this, i hav no problem saying hi to someone n introduce myself, but then usually I just talk to that person for less than one minute then i would walk away do whatever, then after the second, or third time talking or just saying hi watever, i found it very easy to hav a conversation w/ em. Ya but sometimes i can hit it off w/ a total stranger with no problem, in that case, the other person is open to ppl too. but sometimes, girls are not so open at first, how can i get some opener or conversation starter to open them up and have a decent conversation from the moment we met? usually i would just ask what program do u study etc but it is a really boring approach, cuz myself get bored by girls asking me that hahaah....i want girls perspective on this too :)

another problem
i went out shopping w/ a friend of mine n two girl friends of his. when we were sitting down n eat, those two kept on flirting w/ my friend constantly ! they didnt play no attention to me at all, (not that i care nor feel insecure) but then i felt pretty bored lol. I commented on some stuff n asked a few questions like school etc(boring questions...again) and I was never able to talk to them. its not like i dont talk, if im seeing some friend just by myself, i hav no problem talkin whatever. but w/ those two flirting w/ my friend, that kinda freezed me. what should I do? im pretty sure im gonna hang out w/ them agian. not that i like those two girls, i really do wanna be good friends w/ em watever, cuz they hang out w/ a lot of hot girls hahaha

thx for helping me out , peace.

[Shocka]

I think it's best to open with something to ease that initial terror of talking to someone new, usually something involving humor. Try to make an amusing comment, like a joke at the expense of their lack of dress sense, or simply mentioning the fact that even people without voice boxes can scream if you hit them with a sledgehammer, to make comversation flow nicely.

The thing you have to remember about girls, and particularly attractive girls, is that they strongly desire attention. Problem is, the guys they're attracted to the most don't give them any attention, which makes them more interesting, so you have to hit head on in both areas, and I don't mean hitting them with a sledgehammer. Try saying "Hey, Girl 1, I like your bracelet." Comments on jewellery are flattering and guys rarely make them, so they'll be all glowy for a second, which is when you strike with "Shame about your face, though!" Don't say it hurtfully, say it jokingly, and then hit them with a sledgehammer.

[hunny]

Hah, yeah girls LOVE insults about their faces, AND getting hit with sledgehammers! It's a double whammy; can't miss.

Actually a better approach would be JUST the compliment, a nice non-personal one about jewelry is fine. Other than that, I guess it's hit or miss as far as whether the conversation goes anywhere. It depends on the girl, and on you, and what kind of connection you make. I can't really think of any good openers that are sure to prolong the conversation. Sometimes it lasts, sometimes it fades quickly. You just have to keep trying.
And I think the girls who were ignoring you were being slightly rude. Their fault, not yours.

[RnC]

omg man i love that comment ! hahahaha..........face is a shame thou . nice nice. lol thx yall. see today i met someone while eating lunch and got her number w/o any problem :) sometimes it just click sometimes it dont :) oh another problem kinda poped up i guess i'll post it as a new topic haha. oh just to comment on being cocky and funny. aka sledgehammers. sometimes i find myself saying things maybe just too cocking, insulting ? not funny? like last time, when a girl offered me candy, then i said oohh eating too much candy makes you fatt..then her face turned dark all of a sudden, haha, her friend is like its the thing u shouldnt say. haha i didnt care much lol. but ya afterwords i thought maybe that was kinda insulting? how do i make things sound jokish?

[Shocka]

There's a list of things you can't joke about with girls. Here's a shortlist:

- Their weight. Never ever make fat jokes. They get all wincy and start crying, right before reaching for the cookie dough ice cream again. (Stupid women)
- Abortion. It's such a scary, painful thing, it shouldn't be joked about. Same goes for kicking pregger girls in the stomach or pushing them down the stairs.
- Rape. Rape is never funny and should never be treated as so. Neither is sexual abuse. When so many women are affected by physical abuse, it should be avoided at all times when making humerous conversation. Except for imagining Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd, that's pure class.

Example of cute, amusing, girl-friendly joke to make: I like your clothes today, baby, but they'd look better on my floor. ;)

Examples of unfunny, kick-in-the-nuts joke: I know you didn't ask, but yes, those jeans do make your ass look fat!