bad boyss what are they

[joe]

what exactly is a bad boy? nice guys yea i sure now what that is? but bad booy what are they and what is a BB. how would i act or talk like a BB and why do gals love BB. myself and 2 of my buds i would are single b/c we follow through from the nice guys and that is why we lack a gf. so how do u act or do something that is BB boyish. i mean do u wear a leather jacket, talk like how u doin . lol
i thought and was taught to treat ppl like ur going to treat urself and how would u feel ....
one way i thought about it was like this don't pay for every date u go on just for the first couple of dates b/c if ur a guy who pays for every date even if ur old school and have the money-ur considered a nice guy and chixs hate that.

[ittakessome]

what exactly is a bad boy? ... but bad booy what are they and what is a BB. how would i act or talk like a BB and why do gals love BB.
Bad boy.....? Do you mean a "thug"? or are we doing the whole "boy band" thing and you want to be the 'bad' one??

myself and 2 of my buds i would are single b/c we follow through from the nice guys and that is why we lack a gf.
NO. I highly doubt you are lacking a girlfriend because you are not a bad boy.


one way i thought about it was like this don't pay for every date u go on just for the first couple of dates b/c if ur a guy who pays for every date even if ur old school and have the money-ur considered a nice guy and chixs hate that.
I’m going to try to translate what you’re trying to say : i think of it this way; don’t pay for every date you go on. Because if you’re a guy who pays for ever date, you’re considered a nice guy and girls hate that.

ok, so I’m assuming that’s what you’re saying. my response being........what??? So you’re not paying for everything. (Which is understandable, I like to pay for mine and my boyfriend's dates sometimes.) But what are you talking about? Girls hate nice guys because they pay for dates? I think you are really confused. Do you even know what you’re asking?? Because I sure as hell don’t. Maybe someone else can be more helpful. Because I just don’t get why you’re trying to change yourself to fit this made up theory of girls liking bad boys.

[chiukit]

dude.. i think you are so totally clueless about the dating scene..
honestly, i dunno how to help you man.

who cares of you're a *badboy* or a nice guy? its all the same as long as you got the confidence and the self-esteem.
which is what YOU lack, most of all, i would think.

[Palmer of the Turks]

I'm a nice guy, and girls love me.

Go figure.

[leila85]

Nice guys finish last? Not so. Nice guys who seem too desperate and are willing to bend over backwards for a girl they hardly know? They don't even get to the finish line.
Confidence is the key. You hear it everywhere and everyone says it because it's TRUE! If you show that you are happy with or without a girl, a girl finds that more appealing. That's why many girls find the so called "bad boys" appealing at first. They seem in control of themselves and they're not desperate for a girl. Then we realize that the reason they seem not to care is because they don't. So these are not the kind of guys girls want to end up with.
Paying for a date will not really change much of how a girl looks at you. (if you do INVITE her on the first date then make sure you can afford it and pay for her or you'll seem cheap and she wants to feel like you value her company and are willing to put in some effort).
I've read some of your other posts joe and I think you just need to relax a bit. Get to know some girls and if there are sparks flying with one of them, take her out on a date. Nothing too cheesy, do something fun but relaxing. That really is all it takes.

[RakuraiTenjin]

It's ALL about confidence. I used to think that it was the nice guy/ asshole thing, but I was just seeing that because assholes have a lot of confidence, but so do many the nice guys.

Hell, I'm overweight (although I've been told that when in shape I am pretty good looking so I don't have a bad face) and not that attractive, but this year I started acting a lot more confident, being straightforward, didn't just keep to myself, and I noticed a lot more interaction, emotional and physical (;]) with ladies.

[Madeleine]

I think it's important to just be YOU because if you have to put on a "bad boy" charade for a girl to like/date you, and it works, then she's not really dating you, but the bad boy version of you. Which, I think, isn't really you at all.

Confidence is the key. You hear it everywhere and everyone says it because it's TRUE!

I'm with leila - have confidence in yourself and who you are.

[toychoke]

Keep in mind it's not the bad boy attitude that most girls are attracted to. It's actually more of a sense of being aloof, hard to get. Girls don't tend to respond to guys that they know they could have if they wanted them. Beleive it or not in your desperation to find an aura of bad boy-ness you're going to fail. Don't go against your nature, being an ass only gets you so far. What most girls actually find attractive in a bad boy is more just the sense of confidence that they tend to give off. Very often guys who are labeled as Bad Boys are generally done so out of a wierd sense of respect (in discovery channel terms it's the other males recognizing an alpha male). However, humanity is not as simple as Alpha and beta males. Mostly because it's very easy for a beta male to become an alpha simply by the addition of confidence.

Ultimately nice guys are generally labeled as the beta's, only because the majority of nice guys are solely nice guys because they lack the confidence to be an ass. I mean don't get me wrong it's perfectly possible to be a nice guy and be have confidence. That's simply just a choice of how to treat other people once you command some respect from them. I mean simply look around this forum, and you'll see a lot of guys who are for the most part decent human beings (from the limited knowledge I have of them), but the majority of them succeed were other nice guys would fail, simply because of an addition of confidence.

so I'd advise against going towards being a "bad boy" instead work on developing your self esteem. A perfect way to start is to realize a few things about girls, one is that they aren't goddesses to be worshipped by you. And by that I mean don't put them up on a pedestal (that kind of thing is reserved for the girl that you actually fall in love with). Girls don't like guys that just want any old girl, they want guys that just want them. They are just another human being, and while you should treat them with respect (like you should treat any other human being), it doesn't mean that you should treat them overly nice, simply because of a chance to get a date with them.

Another thing is to force them into the friend zone. This may sound wierd, but I've found that a lot of my dates have come from at first forcing the girl into your friend zone (in effect you strike first). Guys who get put in the friend zone are usually the nice guys without confidence that a girl can refer to for a self-esteem booster, and thus they fail. However, in my experience girls tend to respond differently to this idea. Basically, at first you make it out to be that you are more interested in just a friendship. I mean you don't even know the girl, how can you know if you want to date her. All of a sudden not only are you a nice guy, but you're a nice guy that they have to work a little harder to get. This translates somehow to being more interested in their personalities, than in thier bodies (which for the most part is what you should be interested in at first). I'm not saying that this can't be used to make a few things work out. For example, let's say you have an attractive next door neighbor that you'd like to get to know better. You could invite her over for dinner once and a while, in an effort to get to know her better. I've done this many times just to expand my circle of friends (and it's paid off a few times), simply inviting people over for a little get together for some wine (a beer), a nice dinner and good conversation really will do wonders for starting that initial friendship necessary for a good stable relationship. But once again I do it more as a method to expand friends, and if something ends up panning out than all the better.

Basically, you really just need to establish yourself. Remember dont make yourself dependant on the girls around you to make you stable. Instead make yourself stable, and this will supply a platform inwhich the girls around you will feel comfortible jumping onto. No one wants to jump onto a sinking ship, and if you can supply the stable ship for them, than they'll be all the more greatful.

[Madeleine]

Basically, you really just need to establish yourself. Remember dont make yourself dependant on the girls around you to make you stable. Instead make yourself stable, and this will supply a platform inwhich the girls around you will feel comfortible jumping onto.

toychoke put it awesomely! Be real.

[vampbarbie]

If you just want to get laid then be a 'bad boy'. Treat girls like shit and watch them sleep with you. But you'll only get the skanky girls who aren't worth your time anyway.

If you want a relationship be yourself.


You are WAY too clueless about dating in general without pulling crap like this which will blow up in your face.
Decide to be a 'bad boy' and I'll bet in a month or so you'll be back here whining how it all went wrong.

Nice guys don't finish last. Thats just a lable put about by guys who say they're 'nice' but are really just desperate and too eager to bend over backwards for a girl.

[newlysingle]

ha well, i like bad boys that are nice guys inside. the bad boy routine is really just a facade, but scratch below the surface, and many times you'll find a nice guy.


oh shit, i just saw who started this thread, oh well, disregard anything i said.