Alexander

[Bravehearter]

http://alexanderthemovie.warnerbros.com/cm...ws&speed=300000 (http://alexanderthemovie.warnerbros.com/cmp/trailer.html?id=trailer&type=windows&speed=300000)

Anyone else really pumped over this?
I cant wait to see it!

[Lone_Raider]

I am a history major, specifically ancient history. Every time a Hollywood "historically based" movie comes out I cringe. I refused to see Troy after simply looking at still photo's as I knew it was going to be a historical nightmare. But I might give Alexander a shot. I like Oliver Stone, I just hope to god that it retains the the main historical details of Alexander the Greats life. I'm not still not certain I like the idea of an Irishman playing a Macedonian however? :eusa_eh:

[Kuky]

*listens to Iron Maiden - Alexander the Great* oh yeah =)

[Lone_Raider]

Iron Maiden liked history I guess. Someone else pointed out a song to me they wrote about my other favorite topic, WWII combat aviation. Might have been called Aces High or something like that. I don't really like their music, but if they have historical topics in metal songs that makes them at least mildly cool to me.

[Kuky]

Aces High? Yeah... As it turns on, Steve Harris has a history degree. They have a number of historical songs.

[Lone_Raider]

Yep it was Aces High, found the video, it actually starts with WWII footage and has Churchills fight speech at the beginning. Great video because of that alone! Video Here (http://www.ironmaiden.com/discography/video/aceshigh_128.wmv)

[The Original Taco]

I can't wait for those hot gay scenes with Colin Farrell..OH BOY!

[Bravehearter]

I know.. uugh. Not sure if that needs to be in there or not. They were rumored to be cut out, but word came down that they were staying in. I just hope they didnt cut out any other possible full frontal nudity scenes for that! I mean im not trying to be a pig here, I just enjoy seeing breasts more then I like seeing two guys playing bum darts.

[Lone_Raider]

lol, that's the part of Alexander the Great and Greek History that everyone forgets about. When I said historically accurate, I meant battles, armor, events, the gay scenes can just be alluded to and I think everyone will get the idea.

[kuju]

he was gay? wow, shows how much I know! what's the point of Angelina Jolie then?

speaking of which... holy casting what-the-fuck? there are certain actors who do NOT belong in a period piece, and Colin Farrell, Val Kilmer and Jared Leto are three of them. Honestly, the only person who WORKS in that cast is Anthony Hopkins.

[StrayDog]

Yeah, talk about casting abortion.

I've come to hate star-studded casts - they usually never suit the big name actors chosen. And with this, I'm usually left with a feeling that the movie and the story was made to showcase an actor, as opposed to the other way around.

[Bravehearter]

I dont think there is anything wrong with the cast at all. Val Kilmer looks like he will do a great job. Kilmer and Stone have worked together in the past and Stone got probably the best performance out of Kilmer that he has ever given (The Doors)

I think Jolie can pull off that role easily. Julia, She plays Alexanders mother. And Alexander wasnt gay as much as he was curious, his love interest is played by Rosario Dawson.

I think saying that these actors shouldnt be in a period piece is ignorant to be honest. Mel Gibson never played in a period piece, we have Braveheart. Russel Crowe never was in a Period Piece, Gladiator, Viggo Mortensen, the closest he came to a period piece was in 'Witness'.

I can go on if you want.

Actors deserve a chance at different roles. I think from the footage I have seen Colin Farrel is doing a great job and hes an actor that is just going to get better and better as the days go on.

[kuju]

I just meant hat they don't have the right look. they're too... modern. I mean, do you think that Justin Timberlake (who has done acting) or Mandy Moore could do a period piece nd not have it come out as hollywood crap?

[StrayDog]

Originally posted by Bravehearter@Oct 10 2004, 06:51 PM
I dont think there is anything wrong with the cast at all. Val Kilmer looks like he will do a great job. Kilmer and Stone have worked together in the past and Stone got probably the best performance out of Kilmer that he has ever given (The Doors)

I think Jolie can pull off that role easily. Julia, She plays Alexanders mother. And Alexander wasnt gay as much as he was curious, his love interest is played by Rosario Dawson.

I think saying that these actors shouldnt be in a period piece is ignorant to be honest. Mel Gibson never played in a period piece, we have Braveheart. Russel Crowe never was in a Period Piece, Gladiator, Viggo Mortensen, the closest he came to a period piece was in 'Witness'.

I can go on if you want.

Actors deserve a chance at different roles. I think from the footage I have seen Colin Farrel is doing a great job and hes an actor that is just going to get better and better as the days go on.
ignorant?
Who do you think you are? Siskel and Ebert?
I just don't care much for who plays it, as long as the role fits, then so be it.
But one thing I don't do is forgive a miscast just because the actor was big name.

[Asphodelle13]

I'd give this movie a chance just because Oliver Stone is directing it...and I liked Platoon and Natural Born Killers. It'll be interesting to see if Colin Farrell can do a good job, and I'm willing to bet that he can. I think he wants to be taken seriously and someday could be like the Pacino of our time...Now, in NO way am I comparing him to Pacino but that's just the vibe I get from him. All the great actors that we know like Hopkins, Pacino, De Niro, or Nicholson are all old now...so I guess its time to start believing in the young actors that want to make a name for themselves.

Okay...actually you can't compare Colin Farrell to any great actor(certainly not Pacino but you get my point)..but I guess that's what makes him likable. He's got his own thing going on.

[Bravehearter]

Wait.. im not Roger Ebert? Shit news to me! Man come on, I use ignorant all the time! haha dont take it so bad stray, I just think its a better word then 'dumb' :P

And Julia come on, you cant really compare Justin Timberlake and Mandy Moore to Jolie and Farrel. But I do see your point, some people shouldnt be given certain roles, I dont really concider people who pump out G rated-run of the mill crap every 6 months to be quality actors. If I saw the Olsen Twins in this movie, I'd vomit.

Colin Farrel has slowly and sureley been adding some good roles to his resume, The Recruit was an amazing movie.

[ittakessome]

this movie doesnt look that apealing to me. the only reason i'd possibly see it is b/c my boyfriend loves jolie. it looks way to hollywood. while we were watching the previews at the theater my b/f screamed out "he's gay!!!" ha, it was funny.

[Bravehearter]

Yeah those guys rule eh? He must have been the coolest guy in there!

I dont think anyone paid 9.95 to hear your bf be a doofus.

[MuthaFranka]

hahaha, count it!


This movie looks questionable. It looks like a Bruckheimer film under the guise of Oliver Stone.

Jerry Bruckheimer is an abomination to the cinematic world. All of the simple-minded bottom feeders that love his shit need to re-evaluate their personal level of inteligence.


BAD BOYS II WAS AWESOME!!

bahahahaha

[kuju]

nononono... I'm not saying that Farrell is a bad actor. I loved the Recruit myself, and S.W.A.T.

what I'm saying is that these people are miscast. to be superficial, Farrell as a long-haired blonde just does NOT look right. His face doesn't have the right look for the part. When they cast the 6-hour miniseries for Pride and Prejudice they threw out MANY excellent and established actors because they didn't have the right 'look' for the time. I think of the same thing for Farrell, and especially Leto. Jolie I know to be phenominal, and she has done period work before... I know she can pull it off, even if her lips DO look out of place. Dawson... she ca pull off the look too. Leto is my main problem, with Farrell coming in behind.

[Wolf]

Originally posted by Lone_Raider@Oct 9 2004, 02:29 PM
I am a history major, specifically ancient history. Every time a Hollywood "historically based" movie comes out I cringe. I refused to see Troy after simply looking at still photo's as I knew it was going to be a historical nightmare. But I might give Alexander a shot. I like Oliver Stone, I just hope to god that it retains the the main historical details of Alexander the Greats life. I'm not still not certain I like the idea of an Irishman playing a Macedonian however? :eusa_eh:
Just because it's not perfectly historically accurate doesn't make it a bad movie.


IMHO, Troy was an excellent movie.

[Bravehearter]

Originally posted by MuthaFranka@Oct 11 2004, 11:43 AM
Jerry Bruckheimer is an abomination to the cinematic world. All of the simple-minded bottom feeders that love his shit need to re-evaluate their personal level of inteligence.
Couldnt agree more, but now hes also doing it to TV. CSI is a very un-realistic series, the only series of his that I really give credit for being a good show is Without a Trace.

[Kuky]

I like CSI, it's really addictive.

[kuju]

Troy sucked. it had TWO good parts about it: the fight between Achilles and Hector, and the part where they rolled burning bales of grass down a hill.

otherwise it was:
War scene
Brad Pitt almost naked scene
War scene
Brad Pitt almost naked scene
War scene
Brad Pitt almost naked scene

etc.

[Bravehearter]

What about Peter O'Toole? He was amazing in that movie!

And Brian Cox? always a delight on screen!

[kuju]

actually, Peter O'Toole kinda scared me in that movie. STOP.... STARING!

and Brian Cox, while an excellent actor, does not make a movie good.

[MuthaFranka]

I have literally not watched one of this cop dramas, EVER.

Never a NYPD Blue, never have I seen CSI or Law and Order.

And I thank myself every day for that.




OOOOO wait. I did watch like 4 law and orders when I was locked up in the fairfax county drunk tank. All they had was TNT :laugh:

[Bravehearter]

Law and Order is NBC and Dick Wolf, nothing to do with Bruckheimer, so your safe there.

[MuthaFranka]

Eh, I just am never around a television during prime time.

Well I am, I just don't watch those shows. I'm a Discovery/History channel watcher as well as Comedy Central.

[ittakessome]

peter o'toole was in troy? that might actually make it worth seeing.

[kuju]

he played King Priam. but he was kind of scary in it. he just had this LOOK...

[Bravehearter]

Almost like he wasnt dealing with a full deck eh? heh

I know exactly what you mean, but to me, it showed the emotion hes had to go through. It worked for me!

[kuju]

it was a "holy fuck... we're in serious shit, and I'm too old and tired to deal with this... what am I going to DO?" look.

[Bravehearter]

Well hell, he was old :P

But Brian Cox is an awesome Bad guy, he was great in X2.