Birthcontrol

[theslayer]

[FONT=Geneva][COLOR=blue] So, I was having a conversation the other day about birth control pills. Should it be only the woman's responsibilty to remember to take the damn pill?

I'm not saying this about a woman who doesn't mind going out and having random sex with strangers.... I'm talking about the couples who decide not to use condoms and only rely on the birth control pill.

Why should the guy not have some sort of responsibility? A little simple job like calling the girlfriend and saying, Baby its 8, did you take the pill? Isn't it a bit harsh that if the chickie forgets to take the pill and ends up pregant that its her fault ONLY because she forgot one day because she is HUMAN!

What are your thoughts?

[ittakessome]

my boyfriend does that. he doesnt call everynight, but he does usually ask if i've remembered. (but i cheat, i have a little alarm on my cell that goes off every night at 8:40. hehe :biggrin: )

but if she were to forget one day, it should be up to her to know that alternate protection should be used.

[kuju]

I dunno... I would feel a little... silly, to have my boyfriend call me every night. Just set your watch alarm! That's what I always did. Having him need to call me to remind me feels babysitter-ish to me. Like I'm not responsible enough to do it on my own.

I do think though, that if hormonal BC is the only form being used, that the cost should be split. A woman on birth control, at pharmacy prices can pay (in Canada) as much as $25/month. $300/year can get really pricey for a teenaged girl, or someone working a minimum wage job. Since it's really protecting BOTH of them from babyland, they should BOTH pay.

[Quiescent]

Being what it is, a pill that the women has to take everyday, it's kinda hard to share responsiblity. If the girl wants less stress on her she can always look at alternatives to the pill such as the patch or shots that are out there. Splitting the cost though is a good idea because like kuju said it's for both people even if it's only the girl taking the medicine.

[Palmer of the Turks]

Originally posted by Quiescent@Aug 31 2004, 09:19 PM
Being what it is, a pill that the women has to take everyday, it's kinda hard to share responsiblity.
That's my view on it.

If you WANT me to remind/ask you, sure, I will. But only if you ask... otherwise I'm most likely just being annoying.

[*after8*]

in an ideal world, they'll split the bill. he'll wear condoms, she'll take the pill.
or something.

but, it's not an ideal world, so throw all that shit out the window.
i think its more the girls responsibility than the guys. she shouldn't 'depend' on the guy for pill $$, or depend on him to call, or anything like that. ... after all, if she fucks up the pill, SHES the one getting pregnant. i would NEVER rely on a bf for money or anything like that, because i know he could take off SO easily if i got pregnant.

so a girl should always have protection, whether it b a condom or the pill, just in case. (also, guys shouldn't just blindly 'trust' the girl to remember either, but its more HER problem than his if she gets pregnant.. if that makes any sense).

[theslayer]

My opinion on splitting the cost is nope! Especially cause some girls were on the pill before they got their boyfriends, or they take it for other reasons than just to prevent pregancy. I was on BC for years before I met my bf just so that I can know exactly when I was gonna start my period.

If I were to be single and I forgot my pill, big whoopie, it might delay my cycle. Not really a huge problem, but when dating and you accidently forget to take your pill because you are stressed or you just plum forgot you run the chance of ending up pregant which is a HUGE thing.

I read an article a few years back about a couple who shared the responsibility. She takes the pill, he makes sure to remind her or since they lived together, he'd actually hand her the damn thing. I don't think thats such a bad idea. You share the duties of not getting pregant.

Someone above mentioned that if you forget to take the pill its your responsibilty to make sure another method of protection is used... If I remembered that I forgot my pill I wouldn't be having sex in the first place. LOL

My boyfriend doesn't remind me daily but he will ask every now and then...did ya take it.

I have a good memory, just wanted other people's opinons.

[SoSweetAngel]

In England the pill is free - but if it were expensive, I would expect a partner to split the costs with me.

As for reminding me to take it - well, I'm forgetful, so it's be appreciated but not expected. I think it's the woman's responsibility to remember to take it -- simply because it's almost impossible to share that.

[hunny]

Ha ha, wanna hear a funny story about reminding to take the pill?

Ok, my (ex)boyfriend was a n Eagle Scout, and I went with him and his family to this award ceremony (this was a coupla years ago). So we're sitting there, he's wearing that goofy Scout uniform, looking about as wholesome and squeaky clean as...well, as a boy scout. It's after 7pm, time for my birthcontrol pill, and he would often remind me to take it, so he whispered it to me, and I tried to quietly get the pills out of my purse in order to take one.
I dropped the packet onto the floor.
:redface:
So I casually reach down and pick it up,hoping nobody saw it, but just then my boyfriend's name gets called to go get his award,and people are looking in our direction. Then I sat with the pill packet in my lap,covered with a napkin,and spent 10 minutes trying to sneak one out to take.
I succeeded eventually.
Ahh, it was just funny,given the setting and all.
Anyway, guys should be as responsible as girls about birthcontrol. Yes, for sure.
Absolutely.

[kuju]

heh.... boyscout. riiiiiight.

[ittakessome]

my boyfriend has helped me out with pill costs. not the entire payment, but some. (our relationship is why i started b.c. in the first place.)

then again, i would buy the packs of condoms everyonce in a while. we would always share. i mean, it was our sex. he shouldnt have to buy all the condoms all the time, and for that reason, he has helped me out with pills.

[PepsiWonder]

In my relationship, it's mostly 50/50. I am on the pill, so I pay for those, and he wears condoms, so he pays for those. Well, rather, I buy them and he pays me back cause he's not a big fan of buying condoms. I don't know why. Anyway, my mom thinks he ought to pay some of my pill bill each month, but it was my choice to go on the pill, not his. Before that we always used just condoms. But having the pill is definitely a very good added plus, just in case of accidents (one time the condom fell off slightly inside me. That was negative coolness) and it's just.. safer in general. I'd definitely recommend condoms+horomonal contraceptives to EVERYONE.

[Jenibear]

My boyfriend knows my schedule better than I do my OWN! It's funny... I was talking to him last night going "my boobs hurt but why?" he goes "you are about to start your period" I said "No I'm not" He goes "yes you are" I said "No I have two more weeks with my patch" He says "no.. you change to your third one tomorrow" I said "NO my second one" So I got up and checked my calender with my cool stickers. He was right.. it was very sad. OH WELL!

I think they should come up with a pill for guys that they need to remember to take that makes them either shoot blanks or shoot no sperm at all. That... would be awesome. Work just like the pill to where they lacked the hormones to produce such substances.

I could be rich!

COPYRIGHT!

[hunny]

Sorry to burst your dreams of getting rich, Jennibear but I'm pretty sure there's already a male pill in developement.
I don't know if it's available as of yet.

[Deidre]

Originally posted by hunny@Sep 3 2004, 03:15 PM
Sorry to burst your dreams of getting rich, Jennibear but I'm pretty sure there's already a male pill in developement.
I don't know if it's available as of yet.
I think there is one in the testing phases. The problem is that you're not protected for the first three months or so, because of the way sperm production works... so if you've been on the pill for a month, you could still have living sperm in you -- or something like that. It's all very fuzzy -- it has been a while.

[BlondTgr]

That boyscout thing isn't surprising...Semper Paratum...always be prepared, it's the darn motto. :P

[Jenibear]

just a stupid thought and odds are you are just hearing crap and it isn't being tested or developed.. show the proof and maybe I shall believe

[Deidre]

Originally posted by Jenibear@Sep 3 2004, 11:27 PM
just a stupid thought and odds are you are just hearing crap and it isn't being tested or developed.. show the proof and maybe I shall believe
I wonder why, in a world where people [readily believe some] have to be surgically removed from sofas, it is unthinkable that a man would have hormonal birth control.

Eh. "Feeling Lucky" with Google (http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/131003malepill.html).


Edit: Not feeling so lucky? Try Planned Parenthood (http://www.plannedparenthood.org/ARTICLES/bcfuture_m.html)

[Jenibear]

Good for the proof... but it still doesn't deplete the sperm count ENTIRELY as I said..

technicalities..

[Deidre]

Originally posted by Jenibear@Sep 4 2004, 03:56 PM
Good for the proof... but it still doesn't deplete the sperm count ENTIRELY as I said..

technicalities..
Yet.

Hence it is in the works, being tested, rather than already out there on the market.

But if you want to nitpick about wording, go ahead and try to patent your idea and defend it to the bureau with that line of argument, if it really is that important that you were right about it not existing.

[Palmer of the Turks]

Originally posted by Jenibear@Sep 4 2004, 06:56 AM
Good for the proof... but it still doesn't deplete the sperm count ENTIRELY as I said..
And the BC pill doesn't protect against pregnancy ENTIRELY.
Double standard, much?

Hell, getting your tubes tied doesn't protect ENTIRELY.

What's your point?
You ask for proof, you get it... and then you bitch about it?

Give me a break.

[GrumpyBear]

So to get back to the topic:

I think the guy should be willing to try to remind you, but in no way does that mean that if you forget to take the pill it's his fault. But if he's unwilling to even try to remind you...Then why are you with him? It's just part of working together to make the relationship that much smoother.

Paying I think really depends on the couple. If you were on it before to clear up your skin then it's your thing but he can help out if he chooses, if you got on it strictly because of the relationship it wouldn't be a bad idea for him to help out with payment if he is able to. Personally last time I bought the condoms, and my insurance pays for birth control so he didn't pay anything but I don't really care as I'm sure if it came right down to it he'd give me the 8 bucks or whatever it cost me :P

[Jenibear]

Yes I ask for proof but y'all straight up sit there and act like I'm going to become some pharmacist and actually patent an idea and make a drug for it... so yeah I'm being at bitch because you are taking me serious... random COMMENT get OVER IT

besides.. nothing protects entirely besides abstinence

[Deidre]

Originally posted by Jenibear@Sep 5 2004, 05:32 AM
Yes I ask for proof but y'all straight up sit there and act like I'm going to become some pharmacist and actually patent an idea and make a drug for it... so yeah I'm being at bitch because you are taking me serious... random COMMENT get OVER IT

besides.. nothing protects entirely besides abstinence
Nobody said anything about a patent until you started complaining about it.


And I have it on a good ancient Jewish source that not even abstincence helps in all cases. ;)

[Palmer of the Turks]

Originally posted by Jenibear@Sep 4 2004, 08:32 PM
besides.. nothing protects entirely besides abstinence
Tell that to a pregnant rape victim.

[kewlgal99]

i think i'd be really annoyed if he called me everyday to ask if i'd taken it. i mean, if he's WITH me...as it is i use my watch alarm. maybe he could keep her supplied in watch batteries or something.

[kewlgal99]

Originally posted by Jenibear@Sep 4 2004, 02:56 PM
Good for the proof... but it still doesn't deplete the sperm count ENTIRELY as I said..

technicalities..
yes.... but the pill doesn't completely keep you from getting pregnant either. nothings perfect.

[Jenibear]

can we stop with the REPEATS PLEASE?! I know the pill doesn't stop PREGNANCY!!!

Yeah.. the virgin mary.. who would have thought?

What jewish source are ya talking about? (little dense on the religion.. it's not my thing)

And if I was raped.. I'd pray for a miscarriage or get it aborted *start debate here*