Olympics 2004

[Tootsie Pop]

Who has been watching them? I have,... I get to see some of my favorite sports which are only aired during the Olympics. :) What are your favorite athletes or sports?

Ive been watching all the swimming events... seeing I use to be a swimmer myself. The USA sent Phelps who is expected to win 8 gold medals. I'd like to see him try. :)
I also love gymnastics for the same reason. I got to see fencing today. I never really knew what it was all about. I always thought it was like a "duel." I had no idea it was a few quick rounds of gaining a "touche."

But has anyone else been watching?

[lain13ego]

meh...the only sport i watch is sumo. seriously...its the only entertaining sport i've ever seen. Well, a few martial arts tournaments as well, but sumo...thats great stuff. anyhoo, i really don't get into the olympics...never really did anything for me...

[HurleyGirlie]

I've always been a fan of gymnastics....so I really want to see some coverage of that. I heard that both mens and women's USA teams were kicking butt with World Championships and other international competitions. Oh and the men...are HOT. I have no clue if Blaine Wilson made the team, but oh wow, he's smokin' hot.

[Kuky]

I'm looking forward to seeing TKD. Will be cheering for Dominique :).

Fencing is also cool. Team sports are fun too... some track/field as well hehe. The only thing I can't stand watching is races. Relay, sprint... even swimming... I don't like watching people run around in a circle for a while. But otherwise, I love watching the olympics hehe.

[Palmer of the Turks]

From the lyrcs to "It's Great To Be A Nerd" by The Arrogant Worms

We hate watching sports 'cause we're reading carl sagan
But we'd watch the olympics if they played Dungeons And Dragons

That about sums it up, except I'm reading David Wingrove now, not Sagan

[BlondTgr]

Uh, yeah. Did you not see Phelps win the 400 IM with a new world record(his 6th or something)??? He is one amazing swimmer, his turns are so fantastic. His weakest stroke is breast and he's still great at it. The whole time it was obvious he'd win, he was way ahead of everyone else. Although...maybe you didn't see it. I watched it live on CBC but it actually probably hasn't played yet for most stations. Go USA. haha, though the Canadian outfits were better.

[goofball]

Originally posted by HurleyGirlie@Aug 14 2004, 12:09 PM
I've always been a fan of gymnastics....so I really want to see some coverage of that. I heard that both mens and women's USA teams were kicking butt with World Championships and other international competitions. Oh and the men...are HOT. I have no clue if Blaine Wilson made the team, but oh wow, he's smokin' hot.
the men got second as a team at world championships and the women got first.

also, paul hamm won the individual title at worlds


blain wilson made the team but he really shouldn't have since he sucked at trials

[Jebus]

Phelps is going for eight gold medals, a record.

I watch the French athletes, but they never win anything, so oh well.

[The Original Taco]

Go Italy basketball team!

[Sydney123456]

I LOVE IAN THORPE!!! I absolutely love him. Swimming is my FAVORITE sport at the Olympics...oh my god, I love Ian Thorpe. I hope he crushes Phelps in the 200 M Free. Not to be anti-American...but, I just love Thorpe!! I rooted for him in Sydney, now I'm screaming his name TWICE as loud at the TV. I absolutely love him. I will say Phelps is VERY talented...but I didn't like his race in the IM. It wasn't...fun. He beat the bejesus out of EVERYBODY...that sucks. I wanna be jumping in my chair, ripping my hair out. THOSE races are the best!!!

That, and I'm eager to watch Track and Field...but not really rooting for anyone there, I just like watching.


GO IAN THORPE!!!

[chiukit]

the thorpedo... heh
i jsut saw china win the sychro dive

fuck that was so flawless... =)

[Bravehearter]

Im more a fan of the Winter Olympics myself, there are a few events in the Summer that I will keep an eye on, but nothing I would go out of my way to watch, like in the Winter games with the Hockey. I will set my schedual around that every 4 years.

Im more excited for the World Cup of Hockey then I am the Olympics. :)

[Kuky]

Originally posted by chiukit@Aug 15 2004, 04:05 AM
the thorpedo... heh
i jsut saw china win the sychro dive

fuck that was so flawless... =)
Yeah, that was pretty wicked.

[The Original Taco]

Bahaha the American Basketball team lost! WOO!

[Asphodelle13]

Yeeep...That was just sad.:P

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5714961/

[Jebus]

Obviously you two know nothing about basketball...getting your information from a news article...tisk tisk


May I remind anyone who's interested, this isn't the Dream Team of the 92 Olympics. It was already noted way before the Olympics even started that the US team was ranked 6 in the world. Puerto Rico is a solid team, Arroyo is a NBA star point guard, and Puerto Rico also had better outside shooters, something the US team doesn't have.

Is it disappointing that they lost, of course, but it isn't over yet by any means. The final score doesn't say much, the game was pretty close with about 3 minutes left. The Dream Team doesn't have the star players that the US could supply like McGrady, Shaq, Garnet, O'Neal, Bryant, Kidd, and Wallace. You stick any of those two players on the team and the US would beat any team by 20.

Overall though, the average age on the team is 22, and it is mostly consisting of rookies and second-year players. This is a young team that doesn't have ANY experience in International play.

It is disappointing that they lost, but Puerto Rico is a good basketball team. They outplayed them, and they won the battle. Puerto Rico lost to the US by 25 a few weeks earlier, but each game is different.

[chiukit]

yep, the american team isnt the wicked ass team they were before now.


rob: olympics, THEN hockey! busy busy busy august.

[chiukit]

o m f g

japan lost judo
even tho its to china, and im rootin for china
but im still so damn surprised.. cos japan never loses judo..

[Palmer of the Turks]

Japan lost JUDO?

That is so fucking WRONG.

[chiukit]

haha i dunno if youre being sarcastic or not
but yea.. i think theyve won all the judo gold medals in the olympics..
and they lost one to china or somethign? *shrug*

[Palmer of the Turks]

I just think it's wrong for them to lose in Judo, considering they invented it, you know?

[Gunny]

I all about the Olympics as always. I've had them on non-stop. I can't wait for the Phelps/Thorpe showdown on Monday in the 200M Freestyle. I have also taken an interest in the beach volleyball competition with 2 very good USA teams.

As for the Men's B-ball team... bleh, they still haven't woken up. There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for them to lose a game. Although I'm not entirely surprised considering they've all been playing as individuals and not teammates. Maybe they will wake up before they're left out of a chance at a medal.

I LOVE the Olympics. I can't wait to watch the USA women's soccer and some track and field as well.

.... and I'm stunned as well about Japan losing in judo. I took it for 5 years and worked with some awesome Japanese competitors.

[The Original Taco]

Originally posted by Jebus@Aug 15 2004, 05:51 PM
Obviously you two know nothing about basketball...getting your information from a news article...tisk tisk
Me? If yes see this: You're retarded. If no see below:

Sorry for that retard thing.

I didn't get any information from a news article, I watched the game...and yes, I'm full freaking aware that many of the players are quite young and not exactly the Dream Team of '92 with such guys like Barkley, Ewing, Johnson, Jordan, Bird...would you like me to continue? I'm happy the US lost, because I hate such punks such as Iverson and James...their egos are WAY too big.

ALSO, the average age is more like 24, and sure they do have some young ones on the team, but they need leadership from guys like Duncan and Iverson who have been in the NBA a combined 15 seasons! Then you have Marbury with 8 and Marion and Odom with 5 a piece...Being young, not having played internationally, etc., can't be excuses for horrible team play, bad ball handling skills, and bad shots!

[Tootsie Pop]

Iraq won another soccer game... im so glad for them and I hope they go far.....


The Thorpe/Phelps 200 semi was pretty tight.. i cant wait for the medal round. Though I would love to see the 19 year old take it, I have a feeling that the thorpe-edo is going to snatch the gold.

The relay was terrible! Anyone watch that race?? USA fell behind within the first 50 meters, and then there was nearly no chance of catching up! They took the bronze.... and Australia came in 6th or so. If the US cant win (in any given event), I sure hope Australia can win it instead. So, I was horribly disappointed with the 400 meter relay.

But that means that Phelps has already failed at his 8 gold medal goal. How tragic that it all ended so soon.......... but he can still try to earn 8 medals in general.....


And dont even get me started on women's gymnastics. No one is looking solid yet.

[The Original Taco]

Originally posted by Tootsie Pop@Aug 16 2004, 12:43 AM
Iraq won another soccer game... im so glad for them and I hope they go far.....
I think they're just glad Uday is dead. :lol:

[Sydney123456]

Originally posted by Tootsie Pop@Aug 15 2004, 10:43 PM
The relay was terrible! Anyone watch that race?? USA fell behind within the first 50 meters, and then there was nearly no chance of catching up! They took the bronze.... and Australia came in 6th or so. If the US cant win (in any given event), I sure hope Australia can win it instead. So, I was horribly disappointed with the 400 meter relay.

And dont even get me started on women's gymnastics. No one is looking solid yet.
THAT RELAY!!! THAT RELAY!!! GOD DAMNIT THAT RELAY!!! I'm so flaming pissed...not so much at the American team, but what the fuck Australia!!! South Africa WHOOPED their record!!! And the commentators...I hate them. I really don't think they know what they are talking about...they were making a big deal about how much at least Phelps was going to make on the relay. They looked at everybody's spilts and then compared them to his 100 M Open swim in February. He doesn't usually swim that...DAMNIT!! If I were Ian Crocker, I'd crawl into a hole and die. His split, 50.5, the worst EVER in that relay. Granted, a lot better than a lot of people that could do it...but, holy hell that's not what they needed to win obviously.

I feel bad for Brendan Hansen...he had his heart set on that gold in the 100 M Breastroke, and he had just broken the records in the Semis...and then he gets silver.

YAY Petricia Thomas!!! I was so pumped when she won 100 M Butterfly!! W00t!!!! I don't particularly care for Inge de Brujin...after her bitchy interviews last year, she came off as a complete bitch. However, she's growing a little on me.

And as for those Women's Gymnastics...I have to agree with you. But then again...I don't see a lot of people shining in that area. Romania is so young...Russia is crap except Svetlana (my favorite gymnast for at least 4 years). I dunno about them.

May/Walsh in beach volleyball looks stellar...god, they did an excellent job against Japan.

[kuju]

so this phelps guy does both swimming AND running? fuck, does he do cycling too? because he should just do triathalon!

and gymnastics is the only thing I really care to watch during the summer. I much prefer Winter Olympics with the skating.

[Tootsie Pop]

Originally posted by kuju@Aug 16 2004, 08:22 AM
so this phelps guy does both swimming AND running? fuck, does he do cycling too? because he should just do triathalon!


no... hes just a very rounded young swimmer.

[BabyBlue]

I love the olympics! I'm bias towards the winter games (former figure skater) but I do love the summer games as well. My favorite sport during the summer is gymnastics. I also enjoy watching track & field, swimming, & diving. My favorite athlete of these games is Lenny Krayzelburg *slurp* hehe my fiancé just rolls his eyes when I watch Lenny swim haha :biggrin:

[Barefoot Matt]

I love watching gymnastics. First of all, the stuff they can do is just damn incredible. Second, lots of them are freaking hot! ;) From this year's group, I'm particularly fond of Kate Richardson of Canada and Carly Patterson of the USA. 8)

Don't get me wrong, I love watching the men too. Despite the hotness of the women, my main attraction is the skill.

[chiukit]

hmm... mary sanders is a friend of mine, har. well more like friend of friend but yea.
anyways... japan's high beam performance today... fuck.
they look so funny tho.. skinny mid... big upper body.. lol

[Jebus]

Originally posted by Barefoot Matt@Aug 17 2004, 02:36 AM
I love watching gymnastics. First of all, the stuff they can do is just damn incredible. Second, lots of them are freaking hot! ;) From this year's group, I'm particularly fond of Kate Richardson of Canada and Carly Patterson of the USA. 8)

Don't get me wrong, I love watching the men too. Despite the hotness of the women, my main attraction is the skill.
Damn straight, I don't know how they do the stuff they do...so much skill, strength, and flexability...its amazing.

[Tootsie Pop]

How bout those men? They won the silver for their team for the first time ever. That was pretty cool.

[HurleyGirlie]

^^ Hell yeah, twins from WI :) Woooo! I'm looking forward to the women's team competition now...should be interesting.

[Jebus]

All these critics are saying "No one is watching the Olympics", and the way I see it, everyone who is missing them is missing out. Most of these athletes trained for 4 years to be apart of the Olympics, and I love seeing them compete and give it everything they have for themselves, their team, and their country.

[Don Simeone]

nobody's watching them in athens tho...most things i've seen, except swimming, all the seats were empty !

anyway...

phelps is an arrogant little kid who's overrated :) i was rooting for van den hoogenband (the guy who got in second)

i like gymnastics too, for some reason (no, not just because of the girls...even tho i like the dutch girls best, for some reason ehe)



it really sux watching this stuff as a belgian...man, do we SUCK !!! we have 2 bronze medals so far...and it's probably gonna stay that way...i'm watching all this stuff like judo and going hey we used to get gold medals in judo !! then i'm watching table tennis goin hey we used to get medals in that...so now what the hell happened...i for one blame kids these days being bored and not motivated :) just kidding

i'm rooting for holland :)

[chiukit]

2 bronze?
i think thats more than canada
puhaha

[Bravehearter]

Anyone else paying attention to how well the Canadian Baseball team is doing?

Outscoring opponents 28-3 in 3 games. they have given up like 6 hits in 3 games. They are ahead of Cuba and Japan right now, and unless they really fuck up, will be going for at least a Bronze. Thats mint!

[Jebus]

Originally posted by Don Simeone@Aug 17 2004, 05:51 PM
phelps is an arrogant little kid who's overrated :) i was rooting for van den hoogenband (the guy who got in second)
He's only got what, 3 gold medals and 2 bronze...yeah, he's SO overrated

Anyone else paying attention to how well the Canadian Baseball team is doing?
Yeah, they are doing good, to bad the Cubans and Japanese are too good.

[Gunny]

That 4x200M relay was AMAZING. A 7 minute race decided by thirteen hundreths of a second. What a race! Holding off Thorpe was tough, but Keller and the USA proved they had the better stuff as a whole.

Also, Andy Roddick staging off three match points to come back and beat Haas in tennis. That was crazy, along with Federer going out.


Damn, I love the Olympics. GO USA!

[Tootsie Pop]

I know! That 4x200 was so fab. Honestly, I didnt think that the USA could pull it off, but somehow they did. I was literally jumping off the futon. Good for them. Im thrilled for them.

Im also kinda happy for the womens gymnastics team who managed to nab the silver. Everyone has been saying that they "are the best usa team ever... bla bla" but I never really saw it. And I guess they arent. Oh well. No one will ever be better than the 96 team.

[Sydney123456]

My Thorpey lost. :( Oh well, kudos to the American team for that 4x200 relay.

And...I must say, even though I was working half the time and missed them, I was impressed that the Women's Gymnasts got silver. When I saw them first round...wow, I was not impressed in the least.

Natalie Coughlin won! w00t!!! I really liked her, I'm glad she won. :)

[Bravehearter]

I really wish along with the medal count, they had some sort of medal per capita comparison. I mean you cant reall judge the amount of medals that China gets vs. Cuba or Canada or Sweden. China has hundreds of millions of atheates to choose from, if lets say 1 out of 1000 people born are superior athletes, then a country that pumps them out at an enermous rates, like china, or the USA have a better chance of having good athletes under their flag.

[Don Simeone]

Originally posted by Bravehearter@Aug 18 2004, 09:51 AM
I really wish along with the medal count, they had some sort of medal per capita comparison. I mean you cant reall judge the amount of medals that China gets vs. Cuba or Canada or Sweden. China has hundreds of millions of atheates to choose from, if lets say 1 out of 1000 people born are superior athletes, then a country that pumps them out at an enermous rates, like china, or the USA have a better chance of having good athletes under their flag.
that would be a good idea...cos i was wondering about australia...they only have 30 million people or something but THAT many medals...i think australia would be the top dog if we made a comparison like that

[The Original Taco]

Originally posted by Don Simeone@Aug 18 2004, 06:14 AM
that would be a good idea...cos i was wondering about australia...they only have 30 million people or something but THAT many medals...i think australia would be the top dog if we made a comparison like that
It's probably more like 20 million, but...it's just about the same thing.

Australia:
With 14 medals a population of 19,913,144 people they average 1 medal per 1.42 million people.

China:
With 20 medals a population of 1,298,847,624 people they average 1 medal per 64.9 million people.

USA:
With 25 medals and a population of 293,027,571 people they average 1 medal per 11.7 million people.

But past all of this you must take into consideration many other things...China has less athletes participating in the games than the USA and Australia individually. Also who knows how many athletes are participating in the exact same event? Eh who knows...I'm bored.

[Don Simeone]

Originally posted by The Original Taco@Aug 18 2004, 07:51 PM
USA:
With 25 medals and a population of 293,027,571 people they average 1 medal per 11.7 million people.
soooooooooo belgium beats USA :

2 medals, 10.5 million people : 1 per 5.25 million !


WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO !


but we still suck :)

[chiukit]

haha iunno, i think china is elitist.. well isnt a lot of countries..
during their first launch into space, they had 3 astronauts..
they had all three training and wouldnt tell them who was gonna be launching, so they would all compete to fly.. and only told them the day of, or osmething.


go china!! ;p

[Tootsie Pop]

i really dont care about the whole medal count thing.... i just like to see who wins what. I mean, some countries have never even seen baseball or ping pong before..... so judging a medal count based on population can be totally flawed. But I dont really care either way who has the most. :)




But hey.... who saw Paul Hamm win the gold for the all around men's gymnastics! Holy shit! I dont think I have seen something that incredible since Kerri Strug nailed her vault on one leg with a sprained ankle. I Never in a million years thought he could come back to even win a bronze after falling the way that he did on the vault. DAMN. I dont think I have ever been so happy for a complete stranger like this before in my whole life. It was exciting. Too bad to those who missed it.

[The Original Taco]

Originally posted by Tootsie Pop@Aug 19 2004, 12:21 AM
I Never in a million years thought he could come back to even win a bronze after falling the way that he did on the vault.
I did, but then again the internet spoils things for you...and also...Hamm's fall on the vault was hilarious and embarassing. So kudos to him for getting his routine back together.

[Tootsie Pop]

Seriously. He fell on his butt and some old-lady-judge had to help stop his fall... he just kept on rollin. Glad it wasnt me. ha ha ha. I was suprised he was able to keep it together for the last 2 events and manage to get the amazing scores that he did. "Kudos" indeed.

[Sydney123456]

I was flipping out when he fell...I thought I had watched the our chance at the gold disappear.

But those other screw ups, and his near perfect performance on the other two events...holy crap!! I was so pumped!!!!


And...was anyone else really surprised on the pitch of his voice during the interview?? Really...high. :eusa_eh:

[Tootsie Pop]

ha ha ha... i think his voice is adorable. ha ha ha. You dont expect that squeeky little voice to come out of a jacked up dude. yea.





Carly Patterson just won gold in the all around. First person since Mary Lou to do it for USA. It almost brought a tear to my eye...... but didnt. oh well. But I was happy for her..... though it wasnt nearly as entertaining as Hamm's gold.

...and Phelps gold...... again. Its almost getting boring, but he's rather attractive *wink wink* so I wont complain.

[Barefoot Matt]

Yay for Paul and Carly! The Canadians didn't have much of a chance, so I was cheering for those two. They were both fantastic to watch! Paul's comeback was amazing, and Carly came back from a rough vault (but not *that* rough) in the first rotation. They both won by very small margins, I believe. Also, as I said in a previous post, Carly is rather attractive ;).

Btw, did you know that the really tall, skinny russian, Svetlana Khorkina, is only 5'5"? And Carly Patterson, who looks rather average among the gymnasts, is 4'9"! That's, like, up to the bottom of my sternum! Crazy. I wonder how short the really small romanian girl is... can't remember her name though, so I can't look it up.

Anyway, I'll be dividing my cheering this weekend in the event finals, cheering for Kate Richardson and Kyle Shewfelt of Canada in addition to the favourites from the US. Kate has a pretty good chance on floor, and I understand Kyle's pretty good at whatever it is he does ;).

Just an hour ago, maybe less, Canada won silver in men's fours rowing. Woo, three medals now! :D

[Tootsie Pop]

Yay Canada! :) tee hee.

[The Original Taco]

Paul Hamm's gold, a result of a scoring error. (http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/gymnastics/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpY29qbG50BF9TAzk2NjcyOTgwBHNlYwN0 aA--?slug=ap-taintedgoldgym&prov=ap&type=lgns)

I guess the results won't be changed, but it's still a kick in the nuts for both guys...

[Tootsie Pop]

I know, I just heard that too. Kinda puts a damper on the whole "greatest comeback ever" thing.

[The Original Taco]

To tell you the truth, if I was Paul Hamm I'd ask for the medals to be traded.

He knows that the rest of his life will be filled with people nagging him about how he didn't deserve gold, and frankly it's justified. I think it'd be an extremely impressive act of kindness if he gave his medal to the other man and then ask to trade his medal with the other South Korean.

It might be a bit far-fetched depending on each man's ego, but I trust that they'll do the right thing.

If he doesn't do it, he'll be remembered as the guy who unfairly won and kept gold, but if he does give it to the one S. Korean, he'll be remembered as an olympic hero.

[Tootsie Pop]

I completely agree. However, i can see how it would be tough to give up a gold medal like that. Afterall, he was the first man from the US to ever "win" in the all around. He'll be known forever. But, he probably knows that he wont be known in the brightest light.

I kind of hope he trades it back too. Why would he want something that reflects what he didnt do.

[Barefoot Matt]

I must say I disagree. It sounds nice, but I don't think it's his responsibility. In all other such scandals I've heard of, the winner has never been expected to relinquish the medal without being commanded to do so. And in all likelihood, the most that would happen is that the korean would be awarded a duplicate gold like Canada's skaters in salt lake city. If that could happen, everyone would be a winner, and I think that's better than paul hamm giving up his hard earned medal, even if he shouldn't have had it.

Having said that, the whole thing is pretty silly. You'd think olympic judges would know what they're talking about.

[Jebus]

Originally posted by The Original Taco@Aug 21 2004, 09:48 PM
If he doesn't do it, he'll be remembered as the guy who unfairly won and kept gold, but if he does give it to the one S. Korean, he'll be remembered as an olympic hero.
Actually, not really.

Since it is Olympic rule that a misjudge is not the athletes fault, he has every right to his gold medal. It wasn't his fault that the judges gave him a higher difficultly score than he should have received, he should not be punished. And regardless, he did nail the last two routines flawlessly, so it isn't like he cheated or anything.

That is one of the downsides to human judging, you may encounter a human error. The athlete shouldn't be punished for it, it wasn't their fault. This isn't the first time this has happened either, it happens ALL the time. And in the end the whole competition is based off of the judge’s idea of perfection.

[The Original Taco]

Originally posted by Jebus@Aug 22 2004, 11:45 AM
Actually, not really.

Since it is Olympic rule that a misjudge is not the athletes fault, he has every right to his gold medal. It wasn't his fault that the judges gave him a higher difficultly score than he should have received, he should not be punished. And regardless, he did nail the last two routines flawlessly, so it isn't like he cheated or anything.

That is one of the downsides to human judging, you may encounter a human error. The athlete shouldn't be punished for it, it wasn't their fault. This isn't the first time this has happened either, it happens ALL the time. And in the end the whole competition is based off of the judge’s idea of perfection.
Actually, yes really. You misread my post and assumed...what else is new?

It may be an Olympic rule, but I said he unfairly won it, and he did. He didn't cheat, he didn't do anything wrong, but he unfairly received gold when he shouldn't have. I certainly don't think it's his fault at all, but I think it would be a great move for him if he relinquished his gold or else pushed for a dual gold medal.

And no, he doesn't have every right to the gold, he may be in possession of it, but only because of a huge error. He won the silver medal, but they messed up and gave him gold. I think it'd be stubborn and greedy of him to think he should keep it. He, and others may think he deserves it becaue of his "great comeback" but the truth is, he doesn't deserve the gold. The gold is set aside for the athlete with the best score, not the best comeback.

And no, this doesn't happen all the time. You make it sound like it happens constantly, in just about every other event. This happened once in the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City in which they gave a figure skating team silver when they should've gotten gold. That's not ALL the time, but it's still too often.

[The Original Taco]

Originally posted by Barefoot Matt@Aug 22 2004, 03:56 AM
I must say I disagree. It sounds nice, but I don't think it's his responsibility. In all other such scandals I've heard of, the winner has never been expected to relinquish the medal without being commanded to do so.
Once again, someone can't comprehend a simple sentence.

I clearly said, and I quote, "I think it'd be an extremely impressive act of kindness if he gave his medal to the other man..."

Where did I say it's his responsiblity, or anything of that nature? That's far from what I was even going towards.

[Jebus]

Its Yang's score that is being contested, Hamm's score is completely legit. Why should he give up his medal when they made a mistake on someone else's score. If ANYTHING, a duel medal could be awarded. But Hamm give up his gold, no, he earned it.

[The Original Taco]

Originally posted by Jebus@Aug 22 2004, 01:02 PM
Its Yang's score that is being contested, Hamm's score is completely legit. Why should he give up his medal when they made a mistake on someone else's score. If ANYTHING, a duel medal could be awarded. But Hamm give up his gold, no, he earned it.
Yeah, I guess you're right.

He earned a gold medal with the second best score. That makes enough sense I suppose.

[Asphodelle13]

For all you Canadians...a male gymnast won gold today.

[Barefoot Matt]

Originally posted by Asphodelle13@Aug 22 2004, 07:58 PM
For all you Canadians...a male gymnast won gold today.
Yeah, Kyle Shewfelt. Wooo! That was in the floor finals, btw. Looking forward to the women's floor and Kate Richardson.

We also won gold in the women's 800 m wheelchair race. Yay!

Taco, you've been increasingly cynical and hostile lately. I understand your position, I simply don't agree with it, so please don't say I "can't comprehend a single sentence." It's uncalled for.

[The Original Taco]

Originally posted by Barefoot Matt@Aug 22 2004, 11:50 PM
Taco, you've been increasingly cynical and hostile lately. I understand your position, I simply don't agree with it, so please don't say I "can't comprehend a single sentence." It's uncalled for.
Oh so sorry, it just irks me a bit when people neglect to spend the extra second(s) thinking about what they just read.

[Tootsie Pop]

wow. DId you guys see the men's high bar?? I was kinda angry at the judging as well. I dont think i have ever seen a crowd like that BOO for SO LONG and so loud after they disagreed with a score. I honestly thought that the score was low, but I trusted that the judges did what was right. What makes me even angrier, is that they changed the score! Its just making me mad that the anyone who complains seems to be getting their way lately. I mean, from what I have been hearing, shitty judging happens all the time (which is another thing all in itself) .... so anyone who complains should get a higher score? I disagree. But, then again, maybe the judges should wake up. Sometimes I think that they are all completely biased. I think that sports with such subjective outcomes need to be changed. This is just getting old.

After seeing all this, I want to change my little platform on the Paul Hamm situation. I bet if the judges went back and reviewed each and every performance at the all around tournement, every single score would be different and there probably would be quite a shake up in the top three. But, in this particular night in judging, Paul came out on top. Sure, mistakes were made. But that seems to happen at every single event where judges are involved. I say let him keep it. I guess its just a downside of "sports" like this.

[Barefoot Matt]

There was another judging "incident" in the men's vault. Canada's Kyle Shewfelt lost the bronze to Romania's Marion Dragulescu. According to several experts, the mistakes Dragulescu made should have cost him no less than eight tenths off his 9.9 start value, but he only lost 5.75 tenths, for a score of 9.325 on that second vault.

Just saw Kate Richardson do her floor routine, and she was great except for a couple small landing deductions and then a big deduction for going out of bounds at the very end :(. She finished 7th as a result.