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Jedi
February 19th, 2002, 08:54 AM
Ideally, you should never get to a point where a girl is forced to say those four words that all us males hate to hear: "Let's just be friends" :-? - that is when she doesn't want you but you don't seem to be able to take a hint. First of all, you should be able to make most any girl want you anyway :cool3: , and secondly, should she really be disinterested, you should have moved on long before she has a chance to say "Let's just be friends". If however you still happen to wind up in a mess like that, this is what you should do..."If a girl ever blocks advancing the relationship by saying, "No, let's just be friends," say, "No, I have lots of friends. See you later." By continuing this type of relationship, you portray yourself as someone who has nothing better to do than hang around with a girl who is not that interested in you. The relationship will never get to where you want to go - to bed for some romance, passion, and sex. And even if by some miracle the relationship did advance to the bedroom, she would be doling out sex - dictating the where, when and how much. If she wants to cut you off at any time, she can and you have to accept it because that is the implied agreement from the start. She is in complete control, hence, she will never be satisfied with you. :cry:

If, on the other hand, you walk away from this relationship, you have established that you are the type used to leading a relationship, you have plenty of other girls willing to take you on your terms, and she is losing out. I have seen cases where a man will completely turn around the relationship as soon as a girl sees that he is willing to "walk" rather than accept something that is not on his terms.

When do you give up on a girl? When do you decide that a relationship is not advancing? When you are the only one making an effort to keep it advancing. If she is not putting energy in to you, take the hint and move on to the next prospect. Don't stay where you're not appreciated. If this situation does occur, try to figure out why. How did she perceive you? What turned her off? Learn from your mistakes."

What to do, if you can see that you're approaching the "Let's just be friends" talk: "Completely and totally cut off all contact with her for a few months. When you come back, you can almost start from scratch. More of a stranger, less of a "close friend"." :wink:

wowzers
February 19th, 2002, 09:28 AM
ok i, for one, TOTALLY disagree with you. and i think your post is pushin too close to, um, evil? [i cant think of the rite word]

so a girl says lets jus be friends to you and you tell her that you wont be her friend and stop talking to her for 3 months!?!??! thats freaking crazy.

firstly, you shouldnt be SO one track minded to ONLY want her to go out with you. for all you know, you would go on one date and find out that you're better off jus being friends too.

secondly, its WAY better to let her get to know you better through friendship, and vice versa... if youre already close friends w her and you did this to her that would be PURE EVIL.

im not saying use friendship to get her to go out w you [bc thatd be evil] im saying that friendship is a very good thing. in fact, its MORE important than a girlfriend. the only thing that friendship doesnt give you [unless its friends w benefits] is the whole sexual shit, but you can find that elsewhere.

my current interest told me at the end of november that he "jus wanted to be friends, for now" ... it meant he wanted to get to know me like the back of his hand BEFORE we started anything more than a friendship together. wel you know, we're close to being something now, but even if it doesnt amount to anything im sure as hell glad i didnt say "NO! leave me alone, im a selfish baby and i jus want you to go out w me and if you dont im never gonna talk to you until you realize that youre missing out on me as your girlfriend!" [let me reiterate ... that would be EVIL -- and not to mention STUPID]

even if nothing more than friendship ever develops between me and my shy guy, im still really lucky and wealthy to have such a good friend [hes one of my best friends now!]...

also, i dont think the friendship thing is at all hindering the development of my relationship w him. on the contrary, its helped. A LOT!


btw "lets jus be friends" = 4 words
[sorry for the post, im a little touchy about it (as if you couldnt tell)]

Jedi
February 19th, 2002, 10:48 AM
Wow, that was an interesting read! Thanx for the clarification:"Let's just be friends"=4 words(indeed).

Look sweetie, I didn't mean to get on your touchy side or anything it's just that sometimes a guy has to set a standard for himself. If he doesn't, the object of his desire will see him as a "wussie" and wussie's don't get the chicks(young ladies). Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with having a lady-friend. The thing is that most guy's I come across who become friends with their crush; end-up suffering because they want more; but they could never have more than just a friendship so they wined-up crying themselves to sleep :cry: . My post talks about avoiding that pain...and what better way to stop pain than by cutting of the source (in this case a friend that wants to be nothing more than just friends). Friends are cool, :cool3: but if you feel like you can't handdle the fact that nothing else will develope...then you need to bounce(slang--move it along)

Deidre
February 19th, 2002, 11:05 AM
Really, now, when you're talking like this you're totally cutting yourself off from the reality of relationships (and the word relationship does include everything from parental, techer-student to friend relationships, as well as romantic ones). Girls aren't out there to be dated by you, just as guys aren't out there just to be dated by girls. If you have a crush on your teacher, but your teacher rejects you, are you going to say "No! I have enough teachers as it is." and stop going to their class? No. That is pushing the problem further away from yourself and avoiding confrontation. What you're saying is, "I can't deal with this, and I will therefore distance myself from you until it blows over".
If there was anything about her worth pursuing for a romantic relationship in the first place, there is something bloody well worth pursuing for a friend relationship. I'm very good friends with my ex boyfriend. I'm not waiting around for him (he dumped me). I'm still good friends with several male friends who've admitted they have (or had) crushes on me. If may have been hard for both them and me in the very beginning, but it's better than running away.

Raptor
February 19th, 2002, 03:31 PM
well i read both sides of that, and they were both pretty convincing. The thing is, if its gotten to the stage where she says 'lets just be friends' then its basically like saying 'its friendship or nothing' from what i can see. Any if your offered between second prize and nothing, which would you take? You might as well stay friends with her if thats all u can have. Friends are good and come in handy. There may also be a chance for something more romantic later down the road.

If you just say 'no' and walk away, then ok she might think wow he has the courage to stand up to me, but more than likely she's gonna thing 'wot a twat, he doesn't know when to quit' or 'what a twat' and think he's not worth it, in which case theres gone ne further chance ne way, and thats one friend down.

So which sounds like the better option now?

Wow i've written so much in this forum 2nite!

goofball
February 19th, 2002, 04:13 PM
Jedi is pretty close to right on here

wowzers
February 20th, 2002, 03:25 AM
woah. i confused raptor's post w jedi's and i thought jedi was arguing for his 'plan' in raptor's post and it was very very confusing on my zonked out brain. and i started posting a reply quoting raptors post saying "how the hell does that help your (thinkin it was jedi) argument" ... but i got it straight now. la di da.

Vypearl
February 20th, 2002, 08:42 AM
LJBF is 4 words i think :D

Deidre
February 20th, 2002, 08:51 AM
I think technically it's five words.

Let's just be friends.
Let

wowzers
February 20th, 2002, 08:57 AM
yah i was gonna say 4 or 5 if you dont use the contraction. but i dont think people ever really say it without the contraction so you know i was jus tryin to keep it simple

simple simon, always rhymin [sorry jus popped in my head, had to write it]

Jedi
February 20th, 2002, 12:54 PM
simple simon, always rhymin [sorry jus popped in my head, had to write it]

hugh?!?!
Can we please stick to the topic folks...let's just be friends=4 #$%@ing words. Not 5, not 3--Four(4)

Anywayz, just started talking to this one girl I haven't talk to for 3 month...Ah, clean slate 8) .

Raptor
February 20th, 2002, 01:24 PM
simple simon, always rhymin [sorry jus popped in my head, had to write it]

hugh?!?!
Can we please stick to the topic folks...let's just be friends=4 #$%@ing words. Not 5, not 3--Four(4)

Anywayz, just started talking to this one girl I haven't talk to for 3 month...Ah, clean slate 8) .


lol timing it are you? Whats the point? Three months isnt enuf time to wipe clean a slate, she'll still see u the same way as when u left. Bet u it doens't work out, but let us know!

Razor
February 20th, 2002, 01:35 PM
I can see what Jedi is saying. But in my opinion it all depends on the intensity of how much you like a person. If you just had a little crush on someone then i think it would be easier to make the transition to being friends. However if you had a HUGE crush on someone, it would be hard to "just become friends" with them. Not because you want to be mean...but because everytime you see that person it would remind you of your crush. So its not necessarily that the person is trying to be mean by not being friends...its just for their own emotional sake they have to cut the person off. I know that sounds cruel but its really the only way i think. I mean who wouldn't be bummed becoming friends with an ex-crush and then having to see them with their new bf/gf? Or hear them talking about them. That would be torture! So yeah in a way i agree with what Jedi says. But i wouldn't use the "I have enough friends" line haha...do it a little bit more diplomatically. :D

wowzers
February 21st, 2002, 06:41 AM
However if you had a HUGE crush on someone, it would be hard to "just become friends" with them. Not because you want to be mean...but because everytime you see that person it would remind you of your crush.

i had a HUGE crush on this guy, well call him Lanks. well, i thought i did, and it was made known that i did [even tho i really didnt, but i thought i did... thats a different story] ... but i hardly knew him. i knew his name and i had talked to him a few minutes every other day during a class [he always sat next to me, but we jus didnt talk much] ...

there was a dance coming up and i had heard that he was gonna ask me [he was planning to cuz he knew i liked him] so i was waiting it out. then one of his friends advised him to get to know me better first. i heard about this and it pissed me off. so then i thought about it and i realized that i really didnt know hime that well and it was jus a look-based crush [which i generally oppose starting anything w]

so i talked to him about it. i explained that all these feelings taht i thought i had for him were really jus a way to get over my ex. he told me "i think we should jus be friends, for now" and i was of course all cool with that cuz i had jus come to the realization that i didnt really like him all that much.

so in the following 2 weeks, i talked to him a lot more and we became pretty good friends [as good friens as you can be w a person after 2 weeks] but then at that dance, he asked me to dance and when he was holding me i jus felt that moment of perfection and hence the crush grew to an ENORMOUS size. HUGE crush.

but after that he still wanted to jus be friends. i didnt throw my liking of him out the window [in fact i still have it, jus a little less] but i did become better friends with him.

in the past 2 weeks, ive realized that ive become such good friends with him that i wouldnt really care if a relationship more than a friendship never worked out with him. hes my best guy friend and one of my best friends overall.

im not worried about the whole going out and ruining the friendship either. so basically im ok whether we go out, or stay friends. im happy because either way ill have him.

- maybe its jus me, but i think that last sentence ^ really sums it all up for this topic -

Razor
February 21st, 2002, 04:01 PM
im not worried about the whole going out and ruining the friendship either. so basically im ok whether we go out, or stay friends. im happy because either way ill have him.


Hey Wow i give you mad props for having the ability to do what you did. But i don't think i could do that with my crush. Maybe its cuz guys are more jealous? haha I dunno. But i have a crush (we're sorta friends as well), we used to work together then she quit and now shes going to my college. Anyways i see her around school now (with some guy who i'm assuming is her bf...i know she has one)...and for my sake i just try to avoid seeing her cuz of that. Its hard for me to see her with some other guy...especially since i've had a crush on her for so long. Of course i don't want to be mean to her...and if i ever saw her i would talk to her..its just that seeing her isn't good for my emotional health. :cry: And i don't think i could become friends with her cuz i'd be too jealous hearing about her bf. But maybe in time i could. I suppose this will all pass in time. Well hopefully. :D

AlfredB18
February 22nd, 2002, 12:46 AM
Damn, we do have some pansies in here...

If a girl "LJBF"ed me...oh, wait that's happened before...she can hit the road.

One, she doesn't mean that "friends" shit, because she thinks I'm a loser that is too boring to date.

Two, I don't "settle" for being friends if I don't know or see the gorl too well/often.

If that hurts the chick's feelings, fine, I am not here to talk "chicktalk" with her and the galpals.

Friends, when tortured, tell deep secrets and lies about you, anyway. I am doing just fine without the girls that gave me the "line". 3 years later, I am sharper than ever....and addicted to ebay and spending potential "date" money on myself, which is fresh.

Some people just have to learn not to settle for things in life. Now, don't get me wrong, don't stalk someone who won't return the love, but do know when to cut the losses.

Jedi
February 22nd, 2002, 01:51 AM
Very well said AlfredB18:

I don't "settle" for being friends if I don't know or see the girl too well/often.

If that hurts the chick's feelings, fine, I am not here to talk "chicktalk" with her and the galpals.
Ture!!!!!!!!That would a waste of :x: :x: :x: :x: ing time!!!!!!!!![/quote]

wowzers
February 22nd, 2002, 06:40 AM
Damn, we do have some pansies in here...
Thanks for the insult. But, im not really sure what its supposed to mean. If youre insulting my masculinity i guess its ok cuz im a girl. Now lemme return the favor by ripping your argument to pieces.


One, she doesn't mean that "friends" shit, because she thinks I'm a loser that is too boring to date.
1) Friends don't date, so if she really thinks youre too boring to date, it really doesnt matter.
2) how do you know that every girl thinks this?
3) Just cuz she doesnt want to date you doesnt mean she thinks youre a loser. Plus it maybe a temporary thing, where sometime later she might get interested [IF you stick around as her friend]


Two, I don't "settle" for being friends if I don't know or see the gorl too well/often.
Why not MAKE a NEW friend! Then you would see her MORE often and know her MUCH better. Hey! She'd see you more often and know you better too, so then maybe she'd fall for you. who knows. maybe she wouldnt but at least youd have another friend.


If that hurts the chick's feelings, fine,
I can see why girls would reject a guy like you. Maybe you're right about them not meaning it.


I am not here to talk "chicktalk" with her and the galpals.
So you're saying you don't want to have any friends of the opposite sex?


Friends, when tortured, tell deep secrets and lies about you, anyway.
Wait. Now you're saying that you don't want any friends at all? Are your friends [if you have any] tortured on a regular basis?


Some people just have to learn not to settle for things in life.
Yes, exactly. Go out for interviews with a company for President right after you get out of college. They'll give you maybe a secretary position [i guess it depends on the company]. Don't take a job until you find a company that gives you the highest position right off the bat. Don't settle for things in life. RIIIIGHT.

- Again, Sorry for My Viciousness. This is what High School debate will do to you. I should be a lawyer. -

Sentience
February 22nd, 2002, 12:22 PM
Any variant on the "Let's Just Be Friends" line results in my complete withdrawal from any sort of relationship with a girl.

I'm not going to waste precious time on a girl who I won't get anything out of. I know off the bat that sounds pretty selfish, but that's the way it is. EVERYONE does something for something in return. Even so called "volunteers." They get something - a good feeling.

If I'm willing to share something with someone, it had better damn well be a two way street, else it'll be no street at all.

I invest time in things I believe will grow, things that have great potential. If a girl throws down a solid brick wall, I'm not gonna keep ramming into it. I'll go elsewhere.

Sentience
February 22nd, 2002, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by wow
So you're saying you don't want to have any friends of the opposite sex?

I believe what Alfred means is he's more interested in having relationships beyond friendship of the opposite sex. Time expended in mere friendship is less time for cultivating a relationship.

Jedi
February 22nd, 2002, 01:24 PM
I'm not going to waste precious time on a girl who I won't get anything out of.

I invest time in things I believe will grow, things that have great potential. If a girl throws down a solid brick wall, I'm not gonna keep ramming into it. I'll go elsewhere.


I agree with Sentience, the only lady friends I have are either Fuck-buddies or potential girlfriend material. Why waste precious time on a girl that will only end-up taking time from your life to talk about her boyfriend or worst-- why you're such a nice friend: Sounds evil :evil2: it probably is. But hey: I make each day count, and I don't need a girl who I like to torture me with her crap. Oh, one last thing: lady friends are o.k. as long as it's a beneficial friendship and she stimulates me on an intellectual level. Otherwise why have a meaningless friendship with someone :roll:!

Raptor
February 22nd, 2002, 05:32 PM
I have are either Fuck-buddies or potential girlfriend material. Why waste precious time on a girl that will only end-up taking time from your life to talk about her boyfriend or worst-- why you're such a nice friend:


Well thats really stupid. Whats wrong with just having some friends who r girls? Its just like having friends who r guys? It doesn't hurt u does it, and its nice to have friends. Sinceu obviously aren't gonna go out with every girl it doesn't hurt to keep some of them as friends does it jerk?

Jedi
February 22nd, 2002, 10:22 PM
it doesn't hurt to keep some of them as friends does it jerk?


Did you read the entire thing--I said I don't mind having a lady friend as long as she stimulateds me intellectually; meaning that if she's a cool gal to hang with then she's a friend--as long as I don't like her in that other way. Let me share something with you...Just today I was feeling lousy about something that happend to me. One of my lady friends showed up; and I told her about my problem. I got really emotional and asked her for a hug. Could I have done that with a guy...No!!!, I can share my sensitive side with her cause I know she'll listen. She's one of my best friends. Oh, and about you calling me a jerk! Listen, Raptor you are one of the coolest forum members here and I'd really hate to get on your bad side. Look m8, I'm sorry if what I said pissed you off. But, I guess you are intitled to you'r opinion, I probably am a jerk, not only for what I said, but for lacking respect when needed most :cry:

wowzers
February 22nd, 2002, 11:11 PM
I'm not going to waste precious time on a girl who I won't get anything out of. I know off the bat that sounds pretty selfish, but that's the way it is. EVERYONE does something for something in return. Even so called "volunteers." They get something - a good feeling.

If I'm willing to share something with someone, it had better damn well be a two way street, else it'll be no street at all.

I invest time in things I believe will grow, things that have great potential.


Lemme Say a Few Words on the Meaning of Friendship
You get a lot out of FRIENDSHIP. You give and take and so does your friend. You help a friend out and that gives you a good feeling. But thats not all you get in this marvelous package, we'll throw in the added bonus of your friend helping you out here and there [all for the low price of 3 easy payments of $0.01]

Friendship is a two way street. Friendship is also a much LONGER street than the Girlfriend/Boyfriend street. So if we're talking about securing streets, you mite want to find some friends.

Friendship grows. Friendship has great potential. And as previously stated, a friendship that has been invested in will usually ride out a girlfriend/boyfriend of the same amount of investment.

I said I don't mind having a lady friend as long as she stimulateds me intellectually; meaning that if she's a cool gal to hang with then she's a friend--as long as I don't like her in that other way
You dont mind having a lady friend who stimulates you intellectually, so you're saying that if she didnt stimulate you intellectually then you wouldnt care if you were going in for a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship with her.

If you like to get into girlfriend/boyfriend relationships with ditzes or actual prostitutes, then i can see why you wouldnt want them as friends. But i think that most of the girls that guys would generally like as more than friend would be intellectually stimulating.

As long as you don't like her in that other way, well if you can't have her in that other way, why not try to settle your hormones and get a really good friend. The line between somebody you like 'in that other way' and as friend is that friends do not attract you PHYSICALLY [usually] but they attract you emotionally, socially, mentally.... On the other hand some people like others in that "other way" based alone on physical properties. i guess if youre in this boat than maybe she wouldnt make a good friend for you, but you should really try not to be so shallow.

If youre not shallow, than youre wasting a lot of potential good friends that would stimulate you intellectually based on this stupid macho big tough guy who wont settle for anything less shit.[/quote]

Raptor
February 23rd, 2002, 06:01 AM
Oh, and about you calling me a jerk! Listen, Raptor you are one of the coolest forum members here and I'd really hate to get on your bad side. Look m8, I'm sorry if what I said pissed you off. But, I guess you are intitled to you'r opinion, I probably am a jerk, not only for what I said, but for lacking respect when needed most


Soz man i'm not out here to make enemies or to get on ppls bad sides. I was just a bit tired last nite and i obviously didn't read ure post right so missed the bit bout u saying about not minding have intellectually stimulating friends. Now i read it again this morning and it makes sense, i'm entitled to agree with u some wot (still not completely tho lol). Sorry for wot i said. :roll:

Sentience
February 23rd, 2002, 03:27 PM
No, wow. I know that stuff already. What I'm saying is I'm up to my head in friends already. What I need is a girlfriend, not another friend. My friend department is stuffed. No mas.

And besides, when they say "LJBF," usually it's like a slap in the face. You know deep down they're saying, "HERE, HERE'S YOUR CONSOLATION PRIZE..."

Thanks, but no thanks.

Besides, there are some people you'd rather have as a friend and some people you'd rather know romantically. Mere friendship with someone you'd rather know romantically is pure torture at best, especially for a guy.

Jedi
February 23rd, 2002, 05:57 PM
What I need is a girlfriend, not another friend. My friend department is stuffed. No mas.


Hmmm, sounds to me like you're an AFC(Average Frustrated Chump). Listen, no guy will ever understand woman. I myself was an AFC once until I met a friend of mine who told me about a class that teaches men how to be more successful with women. In that class I realized that nobody was born knowing how to talk to women. Just like nobody was born knowing how to drive a car, walk, or talk. Nice guys finish last they say; but I think that it's more like boring, needy guys who lack character finish last. Now, I'm not saying that you image these qualities. I'm saying don't give-up on romance. Try diffrent things and learn from you'r mistakes; I personally like to tease women and make them blush :oops: . When ever I make my close and get the girls # and/or email I say something like..."Is this going to be a romantic relationship? because I like romance". That always makes them blush :oops: . I'd recomend watching the movie "How to be a player" if you haven't seen it yet. And also learn from your mistakes--keep a jornal on your flirtatious episodes and write your progress and failures. Trust me, whatever you do !Don't give-up! I know plenty of guys who gave up and ended up marrying someone, not because of love but because of fear of dying alone: Good luck my young Jedi :wink:

Raptor
February 23rd, 2002, 06:08 PM
Nice guys finish last they say; but I think that it's more like boring, needy guys who lack character finish last.

This is actually more true! I'm a nice guy and i have plenty of girls liking me, mainly coz i'm funny and sweet etc. I find that i dont need to act like a jerk to get girls, i can just be nice.

Those really boring nice guys, theyre the ones that finish last, mainly coz theres nothing appealing about them!

wowzers
February 23rd, 2002, 09:45 PM
and you guys, sentience, jedi, and alfredB18.... apparently you guys still DONT understand women

JginyuT
February 23rd, 2002, 10:01 PM
Haha, a friend of mine and I were joking about this, and he said when my girlfriend said lets just be friends, i should have been like "Uh, no, that doesnt work for me, I enjoy boyfriend much better"

Jedi
February 23rd, 2002, 11:25 PM
and you guys, sentience, jedi, and alfredB18.... apparently you guys still DONT understand women

:roll: Low blow :roll:
Listen baby, I'm not a player I just crush a lot :cool3:
If you want a taste; you'll have to wait your turn like the rest of them :wink: I don't have to understand women in order to have a girl-friend :wink: I just got to be on top of my game :wink: But, don't worry baby I've got plently of room for you, just cause the jedi can't reach you don't mean he can't sweep you off your feet :lol:

Sentience
February 23rd, 2002, 11:27 PM
and you guys, sentience, jedi, and alfredB18.... apparently you guys still DONT understand women



How do I not understand women? I don't want to imply I know it all, but I know a great deal more than those unfamiliar with the DJ Bible.

Face the facts, women don't want what they say they want.

JginyuT
February 24th, 2002, 01:36 PM
If a girl "LJBF"ed me...oh, wait that's happened before...she can hit the road.

One, she doesn't mean that "friends" shit, because she thinks I'm a loser that is too boring to date.

---Odd, I have the exact opposite experience... Bith the girls that fed me the LJBF Im actually still friends with...

Two, I don't "settle" for being friends if I don't know or see the gorl too well/often.

If that hurts the chick's feelings, fine, I am not here to talk "chicktalk" with her and the galpals.

---Bah, thats the most fun part about hanging out with all girls. They have like a secret network set up or something and know everything that happens in the school within like 2 minutes of it happening...

Wolf
February 24th, 2002, 11:38 PM
"Let's just be friends" = "Get the hell away from me you freak!"

Wolf
February 24th, 2002, 11:40 PM
I understand women a lot more than MOST guys... still dont mean I have any good luck with them

wowzers
February 25th, 2002, 10:08 AM
girls can be a lot more blunt than you think. we all know that guys are often jerks and cuz walk up and say "no i dont wanna be your friend" or heartlessly turn down a woman.

but girls do this too. at least i do, as well as my friends, cousins, brothers female friends...

if theres a guy who we feel is totally a jerk or watever that we wouldnt want any sort of association w, we'd say 'get the hell away from me' or 'leave me alone!'

at least as from my experience, when female says 'ljbf' she means it. she really wants to be friends... i mean it when i say it ....

so heres a poll, i dunno, maybe i jus havent seen the world enough, but here, for all the females in here.

WOULD YOU GIVE THE LJBF LINE TO A GUY THAT YOU DIDNT WANT A FRIENDSHIP WITH?

GenericPerson
March 1st, 2002, 09:57 AM
Okay, I think that it is better to keep friends if a rejection occurs... maybe my story will say why.

I go to a small school, and I have known a girl (on a casual saying 'hi' basis) since I was in about 1st grade (I'm now in 10th grade). That's a lot of years. Last year, for some reason, I suddenly started liking her. I waited until she felt the same way... after a while she did, but we were both too shy to ask eachother out. So we waited until it grew stronger. Well it certainly grew stronger for me, however, she met another guy who she liked. I saw her a lot over the summer, and in the beginning of this year were were absolutely best friends. The only problem was that the whole time I liked her more and more while she just liked some other guy. Well eventually, I just told her how I felt even though I knew she liked the guy- I wanted to work through it with her, I figured that in our best-friends relationship we shouldn't have to keep secrets like that. She was a little shocked, but really sad. We both just stood there crying and hugging for a long time. I was heart broken for months, literally doing no schoolwork or going anywhere, just sitting at home. We decided that we should still be friends, so I talked to her sometimes. We talked to eachother as much as before, but saw eachother a little less so that I could get the idea out of my head. She eventually went out with the guy she liked, and I felt really happy with her even though he was really mean to me and I still kind of liked her. Their relationship was stupid. They didn't do anything and saw eachother little, so they eventually broke it off. Well, I suppose I like her a little- but not much at all. I like her because I havent found anyone else yet, and I am searching very hard. I think she likes me as much as I like her, that's how small it is.

Currently, we are best friends. Eveything is okay even though she is the first girl that I have loved. I still love her, but it's a platonic love. If we had decided to break it off, she wouldn't be in my life; whereas now she is my BEST FRIEND. She's pretty much my sister. We click in the sense that our relationship developed humerously fast to the point where in only a year we are best friends. It's comforting, and the idea of us never being friends pains me FAR more than the idea of her not liking me- that doesn't matter at all to me anymore.

People say that some of the best relationships spawn from friendships; but in reality, some of the best friendships spawn from failed relationships.

wowzers
March 1st, 2002, 10:41 AM
that was a nice post genericperson... tho i think itd go better in a thread in down in the dumps [its called friends or something like that] maybe its in dating? its all about whether or not one should stay friends after a relationship has failed... unless you mean it failed before it ever started... but it kind of seems to me like you were already friends [thus having a relationship (platonic) beforehand]

People say that some of the best relationships spawn from friendships; but in reality, some of the best friendships spawn from failed relationships.
you have a good point. id put it into advice-form like this: "it is best to at least try a friendship after a failed realtionship, beacause some of the best friendships spawn from failed relationships." :D

Jedi
March 1st, 2002, 11:48 AM
First of all, I want to give mad props to GenericPerson for sharing his story.
Eveything is okay even though she is the first girl that I have loved. I still love her, but it's a platonic love.
I could never go through that! SORRY! :cry:

Raptor
March 1st, 2002, 12:08 PM
First of all, I want to give mad props to GenericPerson for sharing his story.
Eveything is okay even though she is the first girl that I have loved. I still love her, but it's a platonic love.
I could never go through that! SORRY! :cry:


first of all? whats second?

that was a lovely story genericperson

GenericPerson
March 2nd, 2002, 01:13 PM
you have a good point. id put it into advice-form like this: "it is best to at least try a friendship after a failed realtionship, beacause some of the best friendships spawn from failed relationships." :D


Grammar shamammar. :-?

:)

wowzers
March 2nd, 2002, 10:22 PM
heh sorry genericperson. i wasnt trying to fix your words... jus phrasing it the way id say it if i were advising somebody.

GenericPerson
March 3rd, 2002, 06:17 PM
I'm not mad, dont worry, I knew your intentions. Be kind of weird for me to be mad at you for making mine more readable :lol: