Ron Paul raised over 4 million today!

[PhoenixDown]

Any Ron Paul supporters in here?

Supporters of Ron Paul's campaign launched a very clever fund raising drive to coincide with the 5th of November -- which should be apparent to any V for Vendetta or history fans. I can't believe they raised this much money, blowing well past the goal of just under $2m.

It great to see people participating in their government. :)

[KrystalDawn]

My boyfriend is voting for him.. I've read a little about him and like what I've read so far.

[erinwithane]

Remember remember the 5th of November.

Yeah I like Ron Paul. I really do, but he's a bit radical. Im kinda sick of radical leaders.

Eliminate the IRS? Yeah right, that’s just what Washington needs, less accountability. Operating off of our money makes them accountable to us, or at least it’s supposed to.

Without our money, the government would get it from places like: insurance companies, drug companies, the religious right, the oil industry, the Jewish lobby, the banking and financial services lobby, ect. Yeah that just what this country needs more corporate control over our lives and our government. Yeah, let’s eliminate the IRS and run the government off resources we receive from the oil industry, and the religious right, and Zionist, and be accountable to them, to do whats in their best interest.

But I do like the fact that he could run as a third party and get a notable amount of votes. I like the fact that he’s challenging the two party system. He’s getting a lot of good conversation going in the US, when for so long the only topic of conversation in the US has been Paris, American Idol, Brittney, and Lindsey.

I am so sick of hearing Giuliani’s "9/11 this" "9/11 that" "911, 911, 911" "I was mayor on 911" John Stewart described it best when he said that Rudy was suffering from 9/11 tourettes.

Y'all see the debate where he was asked to name one thing that happened on 9/12? And he said something to the effect of "912 was after 911, and 911 changed everything"

What a Freaking fear mongering douche bag.

I like Jon Edwards the best, and I really wish Al Gore was running.

[Lady]

I'm surprised The Original Taco's "Ron Paul Sense" hasn't tingled yet. He's a HUGE supporter. He could go on and on about how good of a candidate he is.

Oh yeah, and I'm in support of him too.

[AllHailTheThief]

What in the HELL are you people talking about? Are you insane? Have you ever thought of researching him before you go "duhhh, yea he's great!" just because he can yell about how he's against the war?

You realize he wants to throw EVERY single government institution to the wolves and leave it up to corporations to take care of? Yea that's a fan-fucking-tastic idea, since it's been working so well over the past 8 years.

Wake up and smell the coffee. This guy is a lunatic. There is zero good about him save for the fact that he's a republican who isn't so delusional as to believe in this bullshit war the american people have gotten themselves into.

John Edwards is poop. Hillary is poop. They both voted for the war, and apparently the Supreme Cunt would even vote for it again, not to mention selling her presidency to every single assshole who donated money to her campaign. Obama is the only one who is even slightly worthwhile, and even then he's a talking head with just about zero to back up anything he has to say.

You know who was the best candidate out of the whole group? Mike Gravel. But of COURSE, why would we have somebody who was willing to actually talk shit, and speak the real truth be a frontrunner?

Jesus fucking christ my head is going to explode before this election is over, and I'm not even paying as much attention as I used to.

[AllHailTheThief]

Oh who am I kidding, the selling out of America to enormous corporations has been going on for a lot longer than 8 years. It's just been openly accepted by the American public for the past 8 years.

[erinwithane]

I like him because he’s starting a dialogue, and giving our two party systems something to compete with. But I don’t agree with many of his ideas expect for the one about the “war on drugs” being pointless, and will eventually end up like prohibition.

I like the fact that he’s the only politician I have ever heard say that drug addiction is a medical problem, and should be treated by a medically, not punished criminally by sending them to prisons where they end up worse off then when they went in.

I like the facts that he’s the only politician I have ever heard say that our foreign policy is to blame for Islamic extremism and all of our other problems in the Middle East.
I don’t agree with many of his philosophy’s, but I like him because he’s honest, and not political, he gives straight answers to questions, calls others out on their dishonesty, and he doesn’t seem to give a rats ass what’s fox news says, or anybody else says about him.

When everybody else is giving politically correct, calculated answers to questions, carefully trying to cater to their base and get new voters, Taking positions that they know are stupid just to please the lobbyist, Ron Paul speaks his mind.

He’s really giving the Talking Heads of our two party system a run for their money.

[AllHailTheThief]

Well THAT I can certainly agree with. He doesn't pull his punches, or give the namby pamby answers we've become so accustomed to in the political forum of Amerika. It's actually a candidate I can disagree with, instead of calling him evil, and not listening to a word come out of his mouth as something serious.

Not to mention it's nice seeing an ACTUAL conservative run for president in this gaggle of posers, instead of another faux christian fundamentalist using his alleged religion to further his political interests and fatten his wallet.

A few facts about Mr. Paul:
He has promised to NEVER raise taxes
Supports withdrawal from both NATO and the UN
Supports free trade to the point where he says NAFTA is "controlled trade"
MASSIVELY pro-life, and wants to overturn Roe v. Wade
Opposes amnesty and birthright citizenship for illegal aliens
Wants to abolish almost all gov't agencies in the name of saving money
Opposed to gun control
Opposed to federal income tax



Soooo basically, he wants to overcome the biggest national deficit to ever exist by doing away with a federal income tax, destroying an absurd amount of long standing federal institutions, putting lord knows how many people out of a job (in the meantime handing over these same jobs to same type of people who are already ruining this country).
He also wants to spend his presidency ensuring that we can even further our trade with shit hole empires like china, and completely deregulate the few restrictions we already have on such things
Not to mention he wants to make it so states like Missouri choose whether or not a woman can have an abortion, and taking away any sort of control over firearms, while treating the red herring known as illegal immigration in the worst way imaginable.

Gee, that sounds awesome.

[erinwithane]

Do you live in Missouri or something? Why are you worried about abortion in missouri?

If it were to go back tot he states Missouri im sure would be a choice state. Sure we have a bunch of dumb fucks that geographically inhabit most of the state, but their population isn’t large enough to really impact policy on a state level. The people St Louis and Kansas City decide policy at the state level.

Missouri is a swing state, and if the voters of South Dakota will vote to overturn a law forbidding all types of abortion, with no exceptions, Im certain Missouri can do the same. We are definitely more liberal then South Dakota.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with liking Ron Paul, and being a Ron Paul supporter. We all know when it comes down to it who will vote for. Either 9/11 Giuliani or the Hildabeast.

[AllHailTheThief]

Ha, I didn't even realize you live in Missouri. No I don't live there, I was just using it as an example of backwards hillbilly thinking. Is 'Bama a better example? Or maybe Ole Miss?

I'm from Virginia. You'd assume the metropolitan areas like NoVA, or Richmond would be dictating how things are run, and until very recently this was most definitely not the case. Maybe that's how things are run in your state, but why should the people of Backwater Southern VA get to decide who gets to have abortions? Especially considering their entire economy is based upon the populace and more liberal portions of the state?

There is an innate problem with supporting Ron Paul because he's nuts. Can you support any of the things I said about him in my previous post? Do you agree with any of that? If so, why? In what possible way is any of that good, unless you're ultra wealthy? Conservatism is great if you're loaded, and a complete kick in the ass for the other 99.7% of the country.

And the kind of thinking that leads people to say "We all know when it comes down to it who will vote for. Either 9/11 Giuliani or the Hildabeast." is exactly the problem, and a huge part of the reason the two party system has come to so completely dominate this nation's political process. It's just more of the same because people refuse to grow a pair of balls, while everyone sits in wonder as to why our country is imploding. That's why Hillary is already the frontrunner even though she's a piece of shit.

When will we become fed up with the same bullshit year in and year out?

[AllHailTheThief]

But you're right at least he doesn't want to be a dictator. And he's not CRAZY crazy, if you catch my drift. He also doesn't think torturing people is cool (at least from my understanding).

I guess that's something. If you don't mind our standards having sunk to the levels of third world countries.

Edit: He also enjoys things like personal freedom, except for the abortion thing anyway, which is great. He's a libertarian, not a republican, it's a shame he won't run on the Libertarian ticket, and make it so there's a third party to really take some votes away from the neo-cons and the dems. I can't blame him however due to the shoddy state of our "debates" and the run up to the nomination which apparently is totally dictated by multi-media corporations.

2nd edit: I also think what is really necessary, and in the very near future is a solid 10 million votes going to a third party who isn't a Buchanan wack job, so the repubs and dems will wake up and smell the coffee. SOMETHING has to change or else we're done for.

THIRD edit: He also doesn't want to spy on Americans, which is great, if you take into account that that used to not even have to be an issue before we signed our souls to the neo-cons in the name of fear and "security".

[PhoenixDown]

I'm a big supporter and while I don't agree with everything he says, he is honest and he backs up his positions with well thought out reasons backed by historical precedent and the constituition

[erinwithane]

How can anybody not love this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8

[AllHailTheThief]

I'm a big supporter and while I don't agree with everything he says, he is honest and he backs up his positions with well thought out reasons backed by historical precedent and the constituition


Historical precedent such as....?

[PhoenixDown]

Ron Paul constantly references events from our history... he will talk about a current issue, declare his stance on it, and then he will compare it to an events in american history where we did or did not do something and how those events turned out. Just listen to any of the you tube clips and you will hear what I am talking about.

[AllHailTheThief]

lol

Well I've watched a pretty significant amount of Ron Paul videos, not to mention researched his ass.

I'd still like maybe like, an example of what you're actually talking about.

[Jared]

Ron Paul is very much like Howard Dean in 2004. Dean started the dialog and changed the tone of the Democratic primary. Then he had the unfortunate scream, but it got the Democrats briefly away from being Bush Lite to actually talking tough about the Iraq war. (Then, they sent Kerry. Sigh.)

Paul's inciting similar interest in a very similar demographic. While he doesn't have a chance in hell against the established Republican royalty (Romney, 9/11, etc.), and while some of his positions are less-than-desirable when applied to reality, it's good that someone is stirring the pot and at least waking up the youth vote. We simply do not have enough discourse in this country right now, because the political environment is downright poisonous, and most reasonable people tune that out.

[AllHailTheThief]

I totally disagree, all the democrats did in '04 was be Bush Lite. I don't know how you can consider anything the DNC did in '04 as talking tough. If they had actually talked tough, they may have won the election.

I'll say this: Paul is somebody who could win the white house, and have me consider it a loss, but not consider it as despair and destruction for the United States.